Mid laners taking barrier over ignite???

stealthfox94·Jun 5, 2015·1 votes·1,859 views

I noticed this when watching some pro's or high elo games that some mid laners would take barrier and not ignite. Why is this?

19 Comments

ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20152 votes

Mostly longer ranged champions like Xerath, Lux, etc

You should never even be in range of them to ignite them, you poke them down and finish them off with your ults when you catch them with a snare/stun. The barrier is 100% defensive based as you do it to protect you from being dove, which is about the only thing you can do vs long range mages (so as a long ranged mage you always expect it to be coming).

stealthfox94Jun 5, 20151 votes

That's interesting because last night I played Ziggs vs Morgana and killed her once by igniting her, but yeah I see your point.

ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20151 votes

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That's interesting because last night I played vs and killed her once by igniting her, but yeah I see your point.

How does Morgana die in lane

KMannnnn1Jun 5, 20152 votes

Same way anyone does: bad decision making.

ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20151 votes

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Same way anyone does: bad decision making.

Must've been one hell of a bad decision

KMannnnn1Jun 5, 20152 votes

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Vistha KaiJun 5, 20151 votes

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KMannnnn1Jun 5, 20151 votes

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ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20151 votes

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ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20152 votes

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IcyPepperJun 5, 20151 votes

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ChoGathsSonJun 5, 20152 votes

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Vistha KaiJun 5, 20151 votes

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TerffJun 5, 20151 votes

I usually take heal/barrier on long range champions who I can't normally get in range to ignite with (velkoz). Or exceptionally squishy champions (old zilean, or heimerdonger for the troll-levels of survivability).

khorneyJun 5, 20151 votes

Defense less CD on barrier

GodhriJun 5, 20151 votes

Barrier vs Ignite.

Ignite is taken when you are confident that you will be able to secure kills against your laner or that at least you will be on even footing if you take ignite. Often times, barrier is taken to mitigate damage against a highly bursty champion such as Leblanc. Other champions like Azir are better off with barrier as he is more of a kiter and long range killer.

Vistha KaiJun 5, 20151 votes

You don't need or shouldn't be able to use Ignite - long range poke mages.
You need an aditional defense - aganist matchups with predictable but hard hitting burst like Syndra, Zed or Veigar.

Exhaust fills similar role to Barrier in mid. Usage varies between matchups and personal preferences.

GundayMondayJun 5, 20151 votes

It's matchup specific usually.

Say you're playing Xerath versus a Zed . If you're close enough to use ignite, the Zed is close enough to all in you. If you're playing Xer correctly, you should use your range to your advantage and poke/kill from a far. That's why you'll see people take summoner 3 in this matchup since it'll reduce Zed's damage output if he gets close enough to all in you.

summoner 21 is usually taken when the enemy team has enough damage to burst you down, and you need some extra health to survive. Think about playing against a full damage Rengar that has mastered the Ryan Choi instaburst combo. You won't even have time to summoner 14 when you see the "!" above your head, but you will have time to summoner 21 .

Same reason exists for taking summoner 21 over summoner 7 . One gives you extra health temporarily, the other replenishes missing health. If the enemy team can one shot you without the extra health, heal is worthless and barrier is the better spell.