So I might finnaly stop having to ban shaco

Irelia Bot·Mar 11, 2017·3 votes·1,395 views

54.62% win rate and 9.2% play rate and likely only going to get more popular.

http://lolalytics.com/champion/Shaco/

Unless Riot feels like treating him like they have Graves for the past year.

18 Comments

fuffychanMar 11, 20173 votes

Only bads ban Shaco

TsunderellaMar 11, 20173 votes

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Only bads ban Shaco

Agreed.

Touch My BoxMar 11, 20173 votes

"I ignored the giant puff of orange smoke and continued to push. Oh wow, I got ganked, now I am dead. Please ban Shaco"

Sett up 4my gankMar 11, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=Toxic Shaco,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHZgoAba,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-03-11T04:47:21.461+0000)

"I ignored the giant puff of orange smoke and continued to push. Oh wow, I got ganked, now I am dead. Please ban Shaco"

a good shaco hides that puff, and half the time when that puff happens its too late. Shaco has incredibly efficient ganks. he has a very nice point and click slow and a semi reliable short duration fear, on top of either a blink or stealth. With red buff on top of that hes an absolute menace.

Lord MalpercioMar 11, 20173 votes

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a good shaco hides that puff, and half the time when that puff happens its too late. Shaco has incredibly efficient ganks. he has a very nice point and click slow and a semi reliable short duration fear, on top of either a blink or stealth. With red buff on top of that hes an absolute menace.

You can't hide the puff. Shaco has incredibly efficient ganks because he relies on people TUNNEL-VISIONING and FREAKING OUT when he pops up. His damage is obscenely low, as is his durability. If you turn on him and actually fight him, he pops quicker than a balloon.

GULAG 4 UMar 11, 20171 votes

You can't say shit. He has a 54% winrate. Stats are just proving you wrong.

Touch My BoxMar 11, 20171 votes

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You can't say shit. He has a 54% winrate. Stats are just proving you wrong.

Link source, I bet theres plenty of others with higher winrates.

GULAG 4 UMar 11, 20171 votes

Op linked it.

Touch My BoxMar 11, 20171 votes

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Op linked it.

http://lolalytics.com/champion/Ivern/

Higher win rate, WHERE IS YOUR QQ NERD?

Oh right, you are an unranked new player who hasn't even begun to understand how counterplay works.

GULAG 4 UMar 11, 20171 votes

Wait, just because one champ has a higher winrate than another it doesn't mean neither are overpowered. Your logic is flawed. The end.

Touch My BoxMar 12, 20171 votes

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Wait, just because one champ has a higher winrate than another it doesn't mean neither are overpowered. Your logic is flawed. The end.

If you are trying to justify your low ELO opinion that Shaco is overpowered purely because of his high win rate, then by your own logic you would assume that anyone with a higher win-rate must be even more overpowered.

GULAG 4 UMar 12, 20171 votes

Your stupidity baffles me. Just because one champion is overpowered it doesn't mean another isn't. Your argument is complete shit.

Irelia BotMar 12, 20171 votes

Lets compromise and nerf both.

Touch My BoxMar 11, 20171 votes

Though if you look at diamond and plat ELO, Ivern has almost as many games and a very similar win rate.

Shall we nerf him too?

SaltyKrackaMar 11, 20172 votes

Please.

PermabannedGarenMar 11, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Toxic Shaco,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LHZgoAba,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-11T04:51:49.470+0000)

Though if you look at diamond and plat ELO, Ivern has almost as many games and a very similar win rate.

Shall we nerf him too?

Absolutely. Ivern is broken, and everyone ignores it just because he isn't likely to kill you by himself.

Touch My BoxMar 12, 20171 votes

Winrates mean very little, especially without taking playrate, ban rate and the players experience into account.