Add a tank item to counter onhit effects

feintfiend··3 votes·1,051 views

I play tanks here and there but its hard with the current meta and conqueror isn't the only reason. The synergy between rageblade and Blade of the Ruined King is insane, it feels like there's no true counter to it and if it's Master yi who built these items you're even more screwed. There should be a way to counterbuild this.

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Moody P4 votes

"i should be able to buy one item and shit on everyone"

item 3110 item 3194 item 3075 take your preferred combination

feintfiend1 votes

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"i should be able to buy one item and shit on everyone"

item 3110 item 3194 item 3075 take your preferred combination

So every champ in the game is using onhit effects? Lmao no, a vast majority aren't. Thornmail doesn't do much at all. This item is pointless unless you're rammus because the whole idea of the item means it can only be broken or trash. Either autoattackers will kill themselves by attacking the tank or it doesn't do much damage and serves to slightly annoy them. Master Yi isn't effected by attack soeed slows either. You'll have a low ampunt of health with means his E true damage will kill you quicker. Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't. That's why there should be an item to specifically counter onhit effects and give this combo counterplay. Stop putting words in my mouth.

AirKingNeo2 votes

item 3075 already exists

feintfiend1 votes

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item 3075 already exists

This item doesn't do shit, its a slight annoyance at the most. There should be a tank item with a passive that specifically reduces the damage of on-hit effects.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Bork does physical damage based on health. If you build Frozen Heart which does not have health while having a large amount of armor you will basically make the passive useless. It does low damage based on your low health which is reduced to almost nothing by the 100 armor on FH.

AirKingNeo1 votes

reduces attack speed

deals damage to enemies each time they hit them (including phantom hit)

HeliosTheMoon1 votes

The reason BORK shreds though tanks is because of the unqique passive it has and rageblade's, no matter what you build. BORK will always deal damage according to you max HP:

UNIQUE: Basic attacks deal 8% of the target's current health (min 15) bonus on-hit physical damage (max 60 against minions and monsters).

and Rageblade will theoretically make that effect trigger twice:

UNIQUE – GUINSOO'S RAGE: Every second basic attack will trigger on-hit effects an additional time.

The only counter to this is slowing down the attacker's attacks speed or getting away, so item 3110 would be a good thing to build while you try to run away.

HeliosTheMoon1 votes

Btw, this is information from a silver league player, don't take this information too seriously.

feintfiend1 votes

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The reason BORK shreds though tanks is because of the unqique passive it has and rageblade's, no matter what you build. BORK will always deal damage according to you max HP:

UNIQUE: Basic attacks deal 8% of the target's current health (min 15) bonus on-hit physical damage (max 60 against minions and monsters).

and Rageblade will theoretically make that effect trigger twice:

UNIQUE – GUINSOO'S RAGE: Every second basic attack will trigger on-hit effects an additional time.

The only counter to this is slowing down the attacker's attacks speed or getting away, so item 3110 would be a good thing to build while you try to run away.

What's the counterplay when MasterYi builds it? You might've noticed already but this is a thinly veiled master yi hate post.

AirKingNeo1 votes

you counterplay yi like everyone else does in high elo?

HeliosTheMoon1 votes

When master Yi builds those items, there's only a few things you can do:

  • build item 3110 and item 3022
  • CC him
  • and group up

If you do all that, Yi can't 2v1 a tank and a damager. Peel your damager and attract the Yi so that your partner can finish off Yi.

It's the most simple strategy you can apply to try and play around Yi. After that, most he can do is pick people off or try and split push, perhaps join a team fight.

Linna Excel1 votes

Rageblade and bork have synergy because there needs to be another option to a tank meta than making vayne and kog pick/bans and hoping your ADC gets fed buys enough crit. This combo is intended to be anti tank to keep tanks from getting out of hand.

JeaneGreene1 votes

item 3147

Buff Riven Plz1 votes

basically you want tanks to go back to be bring broken?

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