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So like... Azirs W is 2x stronger than Fiddles Ultimate

Gorsz·7/9/2016, 8:05:46 PM·2 votes·1,573 views

Why does nobody bring this up?

Azirs soldiers attack from 1200 range away and does 1500 DPS with 2 soldiers with 1.5 attack per second.... a regular ability on a low cooldown.

Fiddles ultimate does 2750 damage over 5 seconds = 550 dps per second. Thats 3X dmg of fiddles ultimate which is known as one of the most powerful ults in terms of damage.

Source : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Azir http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fiddlesticks

     Soldiers deal 50 - 170 (based on level) (+ 60% AP) magic damage to all enemies in a line. 
500 AP  1.5 attacks per second.. Multiple soldiers can strike the same target, with each soldier beyond the first dealing 25% damage.

One soldier = 470 DPS, Second soldier = 470 +117 for second soldier = 587 DPS. 470 + 587 = 1,057 DPS. . Now you Multiply 1,057 X 1.5 for the attacks per second. 1,057 X 1.5 = 1585 DPS to ONE target. Hitting 2 champions out damages a FULL duration 5man fiddles ultimate.

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Catastrop7/9/2016, 8:16:40 PM5 votes

Fiddle's ult is a massive AoE, in no scenario is Azir outdamaging that unless the enemy team is literally standing on top of each other.

GaleWinUnleashed7/9/2016, 8:29:23 PM5 votes

Have you considered not standing still on top of Azir's soldiers? Might help a bit.

https://i.imgur.com/1HvNiEO.png?noredirect

CerealBoxOfDoom7/9/2016, 8:10:33 PM3 votes

there's nothing crazy about that.. it just means azir has more burst than fiddlesticks which is nothing new. Most champs do have more burst than fiddlesticks.

btw at what level are these champs doing this kind of damage? Pretty sure azir with no items at level 2 doesn't do 1075 damage

Quepha7/10/2016, 1:37:36 AM2 votes

I like the part where Azir can deal damage while moving or zhonya'd wait...

Shadowatom7/11/2016, 9:13:45 AM1 votes

Wouldn't it be 881 DPS? Since the second soldier does 25% damage after the first, so:

Soldier 1: 170 + .6 x 500 = 170 + 300 = 470 Soldier 2: 470 x .25 = 117 Combined Damage = 470 + 117 = 587 DPS = 587 x 1.5 = 881 DPS

Fiddlesticks isn't too far off and only about 330 damage behind Azir:

325 + .45 x 500 = 325 + 225 = 550 DPS

Both are single target here, and give an equal amount of AP (seems unfair to give one a bonus and not the other), also your claim of Azir hitting 2 enemies vs a full duration Fiddle ult would technically depend on the duration of how long the enemies are being hit by Azir's soldiers because if it's only one second, then he only deals a total of 1762 damage compared to the 5 second, 5 man fiddle ulti which would deal a total of 13,750 damage throughout it's entirety.

Even if Azir were to attack the two champions for the 5 seconds, then he'd still only have 8812 damage on the champions. But of course if we were to up the number of champions being hit by 2 Azir soldiers for 5 seconds, then we can see it jump to 22,031 damage. Basically, you're not wrong about him out DPSing Fiddle, but your statement of him out damaging an entire fiddle ulti is incorrect based on the terms you described.