Graves' Buckshot mana cost is too brutal. Can it be reduced, please?

darkdill·Dec 12, 2014·10 votes·1,297 views

Graves frequently and unavoidably has burnouts due to Buckshot costing 100 mana at level 5, and having a small pool to begin with. When you look at how low Lucian's costs are... yeah, Graves got the short end of the stick.

I know it's intentional by Riot, but why is it still intentional? Shouldn't Graves be made a little less... inferior to Lucian by now?

Please lower Graves' mana costs so he's not burning out 100% of the time. IMO, it should cost 60/65/70/75/80, not 60/70/80/90/100.

15 Comments

HibekiDec 12, 20143 votes

That's because it's got some good damage and an extra 60% damage if you are standing pretty close.

He's meant to be a distance closing fighter, not a sniper, that is what caitlyn is for.

He can get some REALLY good distance off with that Q, and and ADC that has burst should have something to compensate for it.

Besides his near useless passive, I think he's actually in a pretty good spot as far as balance goes right now.

Just think, If he was released right now, his W would stun if you landed on top of him, would probably have a blind effect tied in, and would have some other dumb effects on his ult. Riot is all about putting stuff that champions don't need on their abilities to make them over the top.

vscAlohaDec 12, 20142 votes

Rek'Sai isn't very overloaded from my experiences with her. I'm happy with her in terms of Kit complexity.

HibekiDec 12, 20142 votes

A decent exception, but take a look of anyone past jayce, including jayce.

TrotongoDec 12, 20143 votes

Comparing any other adc with lucian instantly makes them weak, but yah he's mana costs are high on q.

AlphariteDec 12, 20141 votes

Oh look, more Lucian rage. Lucian is not the best ADC right now, nor has he been since 4.18. Jinx and Corki are both better, and last nerfs have made him trash.