Thanks Riot for finally deciding to remove Spear of Shojin

BLIGHTBRINGER·Oct 16, 2019·3 votes·6,101 views

There was no other way. I'm glad it's going away.

19 Comments

SyrileOct 16, 20192 votes

This whole pre-season is atrocious.

KFCeytronOct 16, 20191 votes

Link?

ModWulf HelhammerOct 16, 20191 votes

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/preseason-2020-gameplay-rise-elements

KFCeytronOct 16, 20192 votes

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https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/preseason-2020-gameplay-rise-elements

Ah, down near the end, now I see it; thanks.

But then Cloud Dragon Soul. If Riot really is equalizing the power of the different drake/dragon types, then it follows that the CD refund from Cloud Dragon Soul is probably about as impactful as Spear of Shojin's passive, plus it's a permanent effect for the whole team for the rest of the game and also procs off of ability casts. Of course, this depends on whether Cloud is the "dominant" drake that game (randomly selected), and on whether a team has killed four drakes. That's a ton less consistent than putting the effect onto an item. It sounds like a brand new balance problem to me.

IllabetheNov 16, 20191 votes

It's meant to be a game ender for a team that consistently gets drakes.

IllabetheNov 16, 20191 votes

You know the irony? New cloud drake is going to make Senna a turret murderer, Auto > Q > Auto on CDR items is basically going to reset her Q, and ALL of it damages turrets.

YennOct 16, 20191 votes

This item shouldn't have made it into the game in the first place.

BladeSteelOct 16, 20191 votes

However wind soul gives the same effect XD

NaughtyWordOct 16, 20191 votes

Should have been done months ago, actually, it should never have seen play at all.

AquariiuSssOct 17, 20191 votes

This is actually dumb, Jax vs Trynd/Kled match up is going to reverse. Just give it a small change instead (stat nerf, passive reduce t 10%/aa). Jax is honestly going to be trash if they remove it. Also, SoS is Jax's core item for solo carry potential, removing it would be insane nerf to Jax, Just honestly keep the passive but nerf the attack speed so it will be a little balanced. Good grief, typical preseason.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

SatharielNov 16, 20191 votes

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This is actually dumb, Jax vs Trynd/Kled match up is going to reverse. Just give it a small change instead (stat nerf, passive reduce t 10%/aa). Jax is honestly going to be trash if they remove it. Also, SoS is Jax's core item for solo carry potential, removing it would be insane nerf to Jax, Just honestly keep the passive but nerf the attack speed so it will be a little balanced. Good grief, typical preseason.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

everything youve said is dumb i presonally never built spear of shojin on any champion because i refused to. It was too broken for me. Jax will do fine

FioraWillCarryNov 16, 20191 votes

Refusing to utilize obvious and LEGAL advantages to win is dumb.

IllabetheNov 16, 20192 votes

Jax was fine before it. Triforce is his meta. He'll just have to think a little bit about diving 1v5 now.

IllabetheNov 16, 20191 votes

Good thing it's being added to Cloud Drake so Karma can abuse it ^^

BLIGHTBRINGERNov 16, 20191 votes

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Good thing it's being added to Cloud Drake so Karma can abuse it ^^

It's not being added. That was the old iteration, the new one is that when you cast your R, you gain bonus movement speed.

IllabetheNov 16, 20191 votes

So they are not adding the Cloud Soul Reduction to basic skills when you skill/auto? That's what's still posted on the PBE.....

It's also what people are linking in this Thread....

•Cloudbringer’s Grace: ◦Gain cooldown reduction for your Ultimate ability.

•Cloud Dragon Soul: ◦Hitting enemies with abilities or attacks lowers the cooldowns of your base abilities.

BLIGHTBRINGERNov 16, 20191 votes

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So they are not adding the Cloud Soul Reduction to basic skills when you skill/auto? That's what's still posted on the PBE.....

It's also what people are linking in this Thread....

Riot realised that giving everyone a Spear Of Shojin Passive effect would be dumb.

I would be surprised if they actually decided to go with that anyway. Even if it goes through, it won't remain for long after how stupid the game will become after a while, it will be replaced eventually.