Kassawin

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4th highest winrate, 2nd highest pickrate in Korea.

4th highest pickrate, 12th highest winrate in NA

Nerfs are coming :[

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option paralysis22 votes

thats what happens when you buff a decent champ for literally no reason. he was doing pretty well, being picked a fair amount and then they decided to buff him. doesn't take a genius to figure out what's gonna happen. sadly, for riot, it does.

Troll for Trump1 votes

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How long until the axe?

IllegalBagel1 votes

i'd give it a patch or 2

Bottom Laner1 votes

Depends if it's someone like Darius or Sion

MavenSong1 votes

Olaf Lemme AT EM!

GrReaper961 votes

When and what did they buff kassadin?

Salron4 votes

The buff was barely anything to begin with He was already annoyingly strong before then Thank god people are starting to catch on

Velzard of Koz3 votes

What buff exactly did he even recieve? I think I missed it.

AmazoX2 votes

1 second reduced cool down on E and a 0.1+ AP Ratio on his R.

BakedLotion2 votes

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What buff exactly did he even recieve? I think I missed it.

+10% ap on his ult lol. How many times are you ever gonna hit your ult? Most of the time you barely get in range to auto lmao

He was already strong before it. People are just being sheeps now and saying "overbuffed"

Khadaver6 votes

I feel like Kass was always fine, but the buffs made people notice him

junglerboy162 votes

Meanwhile those of us who were playing back when he was 100% pick or ban for roughly 2 years saw the buffs and were like "This gon get ugly fast..."

YoungSirJ0ey8 votes

Really? Because you clearly have no clue why he was 100% pick/ban then.

Faustavian2 votes

Was it the damage? No. Was it the Silence? Nope. Was it the mobility? Abso-fkn-lutely, Half-screen teleports, ew.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

I mean, I won't argue, 700 range blinks are disgusting, but it was also partially his silence.

Faustavian1 votes

Partially, they removed it since it didn't really add a counter play mechanic since he could silence you, get in and out before it ended. But the blinks are what tied his kit together and made it all an abhorred mess,

junglerboy161 votes

I know exactly why, but they had to nerf his damage, mana costs, silence, and indirectly his mobility by introducing so many other hyper mobile champs.

All I'm saying is we know from experience that it doesn't take much to push Kass back into a really strong spot.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

They buffed his damage and mana costs repeatedly post-rework, and they literally nerfed his mobility, not indirectly. That's not even how mobility works.

junglerboy161 votes

That's not even how mobility works.

His mobility has been nerfed indirectly (although you are correct, they dropped some nerfs directly on Kass as well). Being hyper-mobile in a game populated by immobile champions is an enormous advantage, where being hyper-mobile in a game where the majority of meta champs are mobile (some even rivaling his mobility outright) is only a moderate advantage. Since season 3-4 when he was perma-banned and received his rework and kit tweaks, Several new champs with comparable mobility have been added, several older ones have been reworked to have more mobility, and items have also been introduced that further amplify mobility creep.

Simply put, Kassadin's mobility is no longer game breaking, due in part to the rest of the game catching up, and in part to him being toned back.

Venomar2 votes

Which was probably the entire purpose of the buffs to begin with.

Khadaver2 votes

Fair point but he could become actually useless rather than just being perceived as useless.

Jubilee Phoenix5 votes

Clam down, i don't think anything is going to happen to Kass. The meta just favors him right now, so just wait for Tank update.

Troll for Trump2 votes

But HOW does the meta favor him

Fikule1 votes

It's all mages mid, which kassadin is literally designed to kill.

Troll for Trump1 votes

:/ Buff Mages, they said

SirLapse1 votes

Koreans don't hesitate to pick Lucian into Kassadin and crap all over him. Kassadin has a terrible time vs. AD champions and Zed is one of the highest banrate champions in Korea because of how many people play him.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

Which him? Zed or Kass?

Jubilee Phoenix1 votes

The mages in the meta right now just do bad into Kass and the fact that jungle is so good right now he can farm up and let the jungle carry for the first 15 mins of the game.

Melledoneus4 votes

That's the name of my rune page for him.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

Isn't it everyone's?

BALDG1VEN BOOMER3 votes

Actually brings joy to my soul that this delightful wonderful champion was buffed.

/s

Troll for Trump7 votes

Well, he IS really fun to play

Anidan5 votes

He's one of those champs that's really fun to play as, and horrible to play against.

Like half the roster.

Faustavian3 votes

His damage really isn't that spectacular in the early game tbh, Really annoying. Ping his MiA's and if your laners heed your warning and farm under tower while he roams, there's no real reason for him to get fed.

Troll for Trump2 votes

He doesn't need to get fed, is the issue. He is one of the few lategame scaling assassins.

Don't underestimate his early game, too. He can cheese some ppl who underestimate him (assuming you got TLD and ignite)

Faustavian1 votes

Ahh, but by the time he gets relevant (assuming he didn't get fed) Teamfights have rolled around and unless you guys get scattered and all he needs to do is cleanup, you should be A-Ok.

But that doesn't happen in most scenarios. Kassadin is equipped with tools to GET fed, Roams like a god (hence the importance of MiA's) if he isn't already fed midlane. That's why he is such a monstrous assassin. He can GET fed, AND he's a late game hyper assassin. Now, to be fair, if you know what you're doing, you wont let him get fed so easily, and he'll scale at the same pace as the rest of you, albeit with some power spikes at 6 and a fully stacked item 3003 /item 3027 And again, don't get scattered, peel properly, and he's a cakewalk, not a riftwalk.

Jeez, do you even rift bro?

Troll for Trump4 votes

TBH, even when they're grouped, he's a monster. HIs Ult is an AoE, and so is his E. He can get in and get out.

Out of every assassin, he's the most reliable lategame.

The general "stay grouped and they fall off" doesn't apply as well as Kass.

He's like the Vayne, Twitch, or Kog'maw of ADCs if you get what I'm saying.

His lategame is THAT good

o Eon O1 votes

You don't really need a tear item on him, his mana isn't that big of a deal. I don't get blue buff most games and I tear it up without having mana issues pretty much ever. It's all about using the ult smart.

http://tr.lolalytics.com/summoner/KassadinsCreed

This dude never builds it and he's basically the best Kass

Faustavian1 votes

Notice the / between staff and RoA, because getting both sucks. RoA is very common due to the health AP and mana scaling, making the transition easier. I never buy Tear on him either tbh, I find a starting lichbane more than sufficient for mana issues if you W every now and then.

Nymzo1 votes

But not fun to play against...

Catastrop2 votes

Rest your heart, he's not getting nerfed. Riot specifically placebo buffed him to get people to notice him because they most likely thought he was good in the current meta. Basically Kassadin isn't doing well because they buffed him, he's just good right now.

Pater Gascoigne1 votes

Well, that's Kassadin for you. He has a history of getting overbuffed, then gutted.

Khadaver4 votes

Buffs were extremely minor, all they did is made people try him and realize he isn't bad

Rainfall1 votes

wait when was kassadin changed?

Hexs Fortune1 votes

High mobility + high burst = Brace yourselves: winter is coming, aka Rito will nerf

SirΤeemο1 votes

2 reasons : a) Apdo-dopa b) faker

Kotex1 votes

Still not as bad as the season 2/3 100% ban Kass. I kind of miss that era though

6Sfool1 votes

Every time I face Kassadin, I'm an adc. And he's already at a minimum of 8-0. I really fucking hate this champ. See him with a ward 2000 units away and I already know I'm dead.

Lucian Waifu1 votes

And yet the times I get autofilled and get a kassadin on my team we lose.

ToolooT1 votes

haha. He's my best midlaner this season and I played him quite a bit last season too. Even before the small buff he got and the attention from muh LCS pros, I was still wrecking people with him. Infact I haven't played him since his buff. Now everyone and their mother is a Kassadin main. They can nerf him I don't care. Most people in low elos don't even know how to play him anyway.

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