Is Ok to have justified fears about Ivern becoming the next Rek'Sai?

Toastersaot·Sep 21, 2016·1 votes·798 views

I'm saying this because Ivern's buff sharing and bush creation niche may be so efficient it makes him the "Must pick or Ban OP of the Jungle". Just a thought.

7 Comments

Zone of EndlessSep 21, 20161 votes

I see the bush making skill is pretty meh. If you see a random bush I highly doubt you will face check it. It could be a possible zoning tool, but anyone with a good map awareness can react to the random brush.

RequiemsfireSep 21, 20162 votes

Think of it this way, your enemy can only use skill shots to attack you when they have no vision.

Zone of EndlessSep 22, 20161 votes

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Think of it this way, your enemy can only use skill shots to attack you when they have no vision.

i guess.

I still think it's meh.

JinotadSep 21, 20161 votes

I'm interested in seeing the interaction of this skill with a Rengar on the team.

ErockandrollSep 21, 20161 votes

Maybe, but some how I feel like that would be more exploited in lower Rank.

His brush creation probably has some subtle assumptions that you might guess. (You know it's his brush, their for someone must be hiding it it) Even going up to ward it would be dangerous unless you had the reach of the blue trinket. Though lower Elo players might not grab a hold of this.

Though I think the bigger question is going to be his itemization. Since he uses his HP and Mana as part of his passive to passifistly farm the gold/xp from camps. What does that mean for Jungle items? Would he still benefit from the regen they offer? Base on the actual costs, I may have guessed that he was designed without jungle item synergy. Would it still be optimal to build a jungle item? (you would loss out on XP if you didn't.) But if you were not bound to buying a jungle item, you would have more options available. (including going smiteless)

Another neuonce with his Grove mechanic, Since the grove takes time to prepare, you can't take camps immediately. (not sure how that time scales later into the game) Now you could argue that the Pros will be able to do a work around, but it's also possible that such a work around isn't super viable at a competitive level.

Milodic MellodiSep 21, 20161 votes

I wouldn't say he doesn't have jungle item synergy. His Smites still work on Dragon and Baron, you'll just have to build for Mid-/Late-Game instead (Chilling Smite sounds dangerous with a ready Root/Dash, and imagine how much synergy he has with real Junglers like Udyr who get so much faster clear). I think it might be worth to mention that he can give quick Red/Blue buffs to squishy non-Jungle allies without trouble, so you can prepare for Lux to come and then she gets a free Blue without anyone getting hurt. EDIT: Found out awhile ago, you can apparently Smite any of the jungles you're using your Passive on to quickly clear it without having to wait, so Smite actually has a use for clearing.

Milodic MellodiSep 21, 20161 votes

item 3025 , item 3748 , item 3071 , item 3053 , item 3042 , item 3706 Cinderhulk That's the item set I see going for him. Being an Tanky Burst Support by maximizing his Juggernaut nature and his utility with his Q and W would make him a really hard champ to go against without someone dying.