What do adcs/support not understand about fighting draven early game a fair fight?

MunchCrunchLunch··1 votes·680 views

what is so hard about not fighting draven early game. i dont understand. hes the strongest ad carry in levels 1/6. and probably till level 11 or so. especially in 2v2s. why do people actually try to fight him in lane. it never turns out well.

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OneMustFall1 votes

You just need someone to engage hard on him and he's completely beatable. All of his power comes from catching his axes, prevent that and he gets rekt.

A good Caitlyn shits on Draven hard early game.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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You just need someone to engage hard on him and he's completely beatable. All of his power comes from catching his axes, prevent that and he gets rekt.

A good Caitlyn shits on Draven hard early game.

well i wish my caitlyn was good

UberAffe1 votes

Actually it has more to do with the supports than the fact that its draven. If your support is competent and theirs isn't aggressive or soraka your can win just fine.

Draven has an auto attack modifier that tells you exactly where he will be walking to next so your should never miss a skill shot unless he is giving up his damage, and his only other fighting ability pre-6 is a small displacement with a small amount of damage on it. Where as most other adc's have 1-2 damaging abilities pre-6 and 1 of them usually has utility with it.

I think these ADC's would be safe to fight draven with in this situation: Varus Caitlyn Ezreal Lucian MissFortune

That said if the enemy support is going aggressive and not stupidly so, yea you should probably avoid the fight.

Could not care1 votes

As in all botlanes, the adc should determine his gameplan and go with it, but in fact, a lot of adcs are opportunistic and do not consider the counterplay. For example, a Caitlyn vs Draven lane is literally the one of zoning and positioning. If Cait pokes with Q, zones with traps and DOESN'T trade AAs, she has an advantage as all she needs to do is shoot the net into Draven's face every time he tries to aggress with his MS steroid.

However, if Cait tries to trade, she loses. If she shoots E pointlessly, she loses. If Cait shoves to tower and tries to dance there, she is probably going to get ganked as everyone wants to proc Draven's stacks and Draven can force her E, leaving her open to the jungler. For Cait to truly win against an equally skilled Draven. wave control knowledge is required, which, let's say, is not common. There's also the "thrill" factor - most adc players can't handle the slow and methodical gameplay that is required to beat certain matchups, so whenever they have an advantage they try to force fights which often is not the best thing to do.

So, the lack of the understanding about the matchup, no gameplan and the lack of knowledge usually ruin even advantageous positions. Or, in simple words, your ADC is an idiot.

PS. Absolutely all that I wrote applies to the support as well, aside from wave control which is adc's responsibility.

LordGeovanni1 votes

1 -6 is the only time you can fight draven and beat him cause that is the only time 120 base damage spells will do more damage than 100% ad q and try to get more items before he gets a bf sword

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