How do you manage make a braindead champion like Garen overpowered?

Ben Sharpio··6 votes·3,966 views

The last time i said this i got downvoted to oblivion. How can Riot make a braindead champion like Garen overpowered? I didn't think it was possible but now it is. Now a god damn beginner can use this stupid ass easy champion and nonchalantly destroy my adc with his stupid villain passive. It is so retarded watching him CRIT while spinning around over and over and over again. It is nearly impossible to kill him late-game and he's officially annoyingly broken. This whole villain thing is what makes him ridiculous. 90 percent of my games are tank builds even with the armour nerfs i STILL build as a tank. My builds have been very effective and allows me to soak up damage and survive long enough to protect my teammates. Now? When i am the villain (because this villain bs just rotates between champions when the original villain dies) There is no other way to put this, but i get melted by the champion, through all of my armour and health. To make it worse, you can't even fight back because he can constantly recast his silences and slows every 4 seconds with absolutely NO mana costs. He was already a spammable character before the rework but its just SO stupid how someone can literally build full tank and still destroy everything in his path. Hard cc him you say? Ok so now that you've done that, and have done not even a quarter of his health, he will continue to rip your clothes off right in front of your teammates and have his way with you. Plus all of you people defending him create these unbelievably unrealistic situations like "stay away from him". "keep him away from your adc" "hard cc" "don't let him get into the backline" what the actual fuck? There are FOUR, i repeat FOUR other members on his team, but you expect me to use all of my abilities on ONE champion that will regen all damage done in 5 seconds? Yeah, lets forget about the enemy team's ADC, mid laner, jungler and top laner just so that we don't continually get raped by this unstoppable powerhouse. He's seriously so easy to use and takes less than no skill and shouldn't be able to output that much damage. It's just absurd

Edit: Yeah downvote this post as soon as you see it instead of reading it, without any justification.

8 Comments

Critmaster Garen4 votes

you make it sound as if hes harder to kite post rework instead of easier.

which is simply not true, since they nerfed his silence, his movement speed buff, and removed the 30% tenacity on his w active. just get used to the fact that you have to respect him now and cant just outdamage him while sitting in his spin when he catches you in melee.

yes, he deals a lot more damage. riot also made it easier for you to kite him. maybe play around that.

and there is nothing more than that to say. you have more than enough options with items that apply slows and basically every champion these days having multiple forms of cc built into his kit.

even if you dont have much cc on your own, its not difficult to itemize into it.

item 3025 item 3116 item 3022 item 3143 item 3153 item 3742 item 3092 item 3023

all these items apply slows. some of them at range. a lot of people are just unwilling to use them. twin shadows for example is a great item that fits into the build of almost any mage or support. ive petty much made it core on lux.

passive supports can shut him out of a fight. tanks can peel him off carries. it comes down to coordination and teamwork to prevent him from getting into melee range of your squishies.

im not going to bother listing all the movement speed items you can build on top of that. moving faster yourself helps kiting him just as much as slowing him down.

fasega2 votes

Its sad to see people don't realize the very obvious weakest of garen that you pointed out. When you said "just get used to the fact that you have to respect him now and cant just outdamage him while sitting in his spin when he catches you in melee." I cant tell you how many times I have seen carries do this then complain that I killed them its unbelievable.

MoutardeAuMiel3 votes

this game is designed by the worse retard monkey

Maximum Zilean2 votes

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LoLKiru1 votes

"To make it worse, you can't even fight back because he can constantly recast his silences and slows every 4 seconds with absolutely NO mana costs. He was already a spammable character before the rework but its just SO stupid how someone can literally build full tank and still destroy everything in his path. "

So.... exactly like he was pre-rework.

If you were a squishy, Garen would PROBABLY be killing you regardless; whether you're the villain or not (even pre-rework this would've been true; his base damages are pretty great; and your squishies obviously have next to no defenses, 1 defensive item at most in all likelyhood)

OT: Maybe your important team players, should learn to kite, really I can't put it any other way than this.

If the enemy team is so devastating to you at that point in time that you simply can't afford to peel for your ADC or APC, it falls on them to be able to kite.

And yes, I read the entire thing.

Ben Sharpio2 votes

No it wasn't like what he was before because if i said "Garen can instakill you" before his rework people would fucking laugh at that idea. Now it is a reality with this new villain passive. Kiting doesn't exist for him because he gains an insane amount of speed with his Q so he's on your dick 2 seconds after you stun, slow him whatever you say he will still be on your ass in no time. Are you seriously going to tell me that's not true? Before his rework he output a fair amount of damage for his amount of tankiness, because there should be no possible way for me to kill an enemy in 2 seconds with a FULL TANK BUILD. His villain passive acts as an extra item. Garen already scales well into late-game but this is just stupid. There are so many people saying that his new passive is a tad bit overpowered but they keep getting downvoted to shit because people still have this "Garen is a beginners champion and has been balanced fairly because of this" mentality which is not the case. You haven't even provided any feedback or tactics besides "kite before he ballerina spins your to death". You never commented on the fact that he is melting tanks at more of an expeditious rate than before. Even with randuins i could not duel him, So what are you going to say to that?

My Names Gumbas1 votes

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TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

This is a year old thread you necro'd.

The age of Rylais makes Garen nearly impossible to play now.

Also stop exagerrating on his power level.

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