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Can Someone Explain the LP system to me?

ChrisThePleb··1 votes·4,133 views

I don;t understand it. Over my past 4 games I've won 2 and lost 2. Based on logic I should've remained at the same amount of LP or maybe gain a tiny bit or lost a tiny bit. But I'm down 15 LP from what I was originally.

How am I supposed to climb if I lose so much LP but gain so little?

I won 5 straight games which landed me at 81LP. Then went L-W-L and now I have 59 LP. SO buy losing LP then "winning that LP back" and losing it again, I lost 22LP. Doesn't that seem a little harsh?

7 Comments

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

LP gains are measured by your MMR.

If your MMR is higher than your current rank, you'll gain more LP than you lose, if it's lower, then you'll lose more LP than you gain.

If you're losing more LP than you gain, you'll need to start winning really consistently to show the system that you belong where you're at, so that the LP gain finally overtakes your LP loss.

ChrisThePleb1 votes

MMM okay.

Wouldn't it be a smarter system to do the opposite? If you're able to prove yourself versus "better" players, shouldn't be more deserving of LP?

CrazedPorcupine1 votes

Generally that's the case. But if your MMR is out of wack, and you have say, Silver 4 MMR and you're in Gold 3, The system is trying to bring you down to Silver 4 where you belong, thus gating your LP heavily. Now, if you have Gold 3 MMR and are in Silver 4, Your LP gains will be huge, and you'll likely skip divisions as you climb.

If you have Gold 2 MMR and are in gold 3, you'll have net positive LP gains.

The system is trying to place you in your proper division. There are lots of sites that pull ranked data and do a rough estimate of where your MMR is, and thus that allows you to kind of guess where you should be placed, and how much LP you should be earning.

Billy VoHagen1 votes

No. If you're doing poorly, you should be a lower rank. If you're doing well, you should get a higher rank.

Kyrrion1 votes

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MMM okay.

Wouldn't it be a smarter system to do the opposite? If you're able to prove yourself versus "better" players, shouldn't be more deserving of LP?

I think you may be misunderstanding it a bit.

Say you have the MMR of Gold 3, but you are currently ranked in Silver 3. Your MMR is ensuring you continuously play against people within Gold 3 and your win rate has been at a consistent 50%. This clearly means you belong in Gold 3 - even though you're ranking in Silver 3 (since you win half of the time and lose half of the time - that's fair). In this case, you would earn more LP for a win than you would lose in a loss. That way, you will eventually hit the ranking you belong in - Gold 3, as this is where you are consistently performing.

However, your case appears to be the opposite. Your ranking is higher than the skill level (MMR) you are being matched at - so the game is trying to bring you back in line. The system is trying to align your ranking with your MMR. So if you continue to win and lose at 50%, your LP gains and losses will eventually equal out (assuming you do not become a more skillful player).

Dedrius1 votes

You have a negative Win/Loss so you will be losing more LP for a loss than you gain for a win until you get that up to around even (50%) or so. This is because the system has your MMR lower than the average for the current division you are in so it is making you lose LP at a faster rate to try to place you in the "correct" division.

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