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Daily reminder: Lux sits at 54% win rate and has INSANE ratios

Cherysse·Feb 23, 2016·9 votes·1,325 views

MATH: Passive: 154 Base Damage plus 0.20 AP Ult: 500 Base Damage plus 0.75 AP Ludens: 100 Base Damage plus 0.10 AP Thunderlords: 180 Base Damage plus 0.10 AP

Total: 934 + 1.15 AP (lets say you have 500 AP)= 1509 damage.

With % Damage Masteries: Witchcraft: 2% Double Edge Sword: 2% Oppressor: 2.5% Assasin: 2.5% Merciless: 5% (assuming she landed an E on you)

**Total: 14% + 1509 = ** 1720.6... ASSUMING you only have 500 AP.

This of course on a 35-24 second cooldown basis, I am not surprised I don't see building anymore, just spam it and be done with it.

Add ridiculous cooldowns, range that equals a siege mage (but she is a combo mage OFC), safety, a team wide shield and burst damage that would make cry .

How to f-ck a Lux?** pick any of these guys: and PRAY she f-cuks up, gets on a bad spot and doesn't have or .... also now she runs .**

I seriusly don't wonder why she has such a win ratio, I should just start abusing her already.

62 Comments

Zorae42Feb 23, 20166 votes

??? How did you proc her passive unless you hit them with another ability beforehand? How did you proc Thunderlord's?

Xerath's EWQ + Luden's + Thunderlord's = 900+2AP. At 500 AP that's 1900 dmg, before any %dmg masteries. And it's on an even shorter cd... Her ratios are actually pretty average and lower than the other siege mages.

WalkingInACircleFeb 23, 20164 votes

Insanely average ratios maybe. Also if she hits her R without her Q you completely deserve it.

CherysseFeb 23, 20162 votes

True, but thats the thing, there is 0 commitment on her kit, she lands a Q and she lands her whole kit, and the burst is so high and the range so long it is hard to repply, and when you do repply she is waiting for you with her W, item 3157 , item 3040 , summoner 21 , summoner 4 .

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20163 votes

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True, but thats the thing, there is 0 commitment on her kit, she lands a Q and she lands her whole kit, and the burst is so high and the range so long it is hard to repply, and when you do repply she is waiting for you with her W, , , , .

she has to commit by getting closer to the enemy and trigger her passive with auto attacks.

otherwise she will deal significantly less damage.

CherysseFeb 23, 20162 votes

Oh bumper, she doesnt, she only does so when the kill is granted...

SeargentAnusFeb 23, 20164 votes

Lux is your hyper burst mage. She brings less utility than Velkoz Viktor or Xerath , but makes up for that in her wombo combo. She may be slightly overtuned, but I don't think she's super OP. Mages are just strong at the moment due to the meta.

CherysseFeb 23, 20163 votes

LESS UTILITY LESS UTILITY LESS UTILITY

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20166 votes

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LESS UTILITY LESS UTILITY LESS UTILITY

that is actually true. most mages bring heavy aoe cc to the game.

Zyra Annie Veigar Viktor Morgana Orianna

all can stun or snare 3 people and upwards. some of them have multiple forms of aoe cc.

lux can snare 2 people and has an aoe slow. compared to the other guys she really doesnt have much by way of utility.

also, her ratios are average at best.

and including thnderlords and ludens that are available to any other mage is downright silly.

she is undeniably strong right now, but youre really exaggerating.

CherysseFeb 23, 20162 votes

she has more range and commits less than them, she will just wait till she lands Q, the others have to come close, even morgana.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20164 votes

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she has more range and commits less than them, she will just wait till she lands Q, the others have to come close, even morgana.

morgana pokes with q then goes in with w, r and zonyas. commitment doesnt mean much if she can just go into stasis.

and they usually deal more damage and get harder cc for commiting. means they have more impact on a fight.

SeargentAnusFeb 23, 20165 votes

She does have Less utility. She doesn't have a stun only a slow and a snare. Velkoz has a spamable 70% slow and knockup. Xerath has a long range stun and slow. Viktor has an AoE stun/slow and MS boost/shield.

CherysseFeb 23, 20162 votes

less utility? for real? Long range ensnare for 2 targets, team wide shield, a decent slow and a super burst.

SeargentAnusFeb 23, 20164 votes

Compared to most mages she is low on CC. Nearly every mage has hard CC, and is one of the reasons they're picked.

Mael broFeb 23, 20163 votes

All people who downvote this thread are a bunch of crybaby Lux abusers, who can't handle the facts.

Gargamel BotFeb 23, 20164 votes

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blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gargamel Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:11:15.622+0000)

he gets downvoted not because hes wrong but because he spams this daily and uses multiple accounts to agree with it

Actually this Lux main has multiple accounts or you?

Gargamel Bot, Khazix Bot, Critmaster Garen? Same person.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20166 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:15:54.117+0000)

Actually this Lux main has multiple accounts or you?

Gargamel Bot, Khazix Bot, Critmaster Garen? Same person.

i have this 1 account. i dont need to downvote you 20 times. your shitposts accomplish that by themselves.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000d000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:22:40.488+0000)

i have this 1 account. i dont need to downvote you 20 times. your shitposts accomplish that by themselves.

Nice lie.

CherysseFeb 23, 20162 votes

Lol you are saying Akatsuki is another account of mine? LOOOOOL JSKJFHSKJF FUNNY.. nope

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

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Lol you are saying Akatsuki is another account of mine? LOOOOOL JSKJFHSKJF FUNNY.. nope

They are brath.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Lol you are saying Akatsuki is another account of mine? LOOOOOL JSKJFHSKJF FUNNY.. nope

We write at the same time

But they are blind.

Gargamel BotFeb 23, 20163 votes

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blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gargamel Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000d000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:28:29.165+0000)

you got me together we are one we are gargazixmaster garen bot

baka

Shut up salty Lux main.

LadyRenlyFeb 23, 20162 votes

She's not really broken, she's only sometrhing to be worried about if she gets fed in lane, because later on, in this new bruiser/half tank age she won't be able to kill anything late game if shes behind

Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 23, 20161 votes

Don't get why her ultimate has 300 base damage. Few ultimates in the game have that much damage at rank 1.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20165 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nanuk Pihoqahiak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:36:19.480+0000)

Don't get why her ultimate has 300 base damage. Few ultimates in the game have that much damage at rank 1.

because it "only" deals damage instead of also locking up the entire enemy team.

Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 23, 20162 votes

Not sure how this is really an argument. It has an exceedingly high base damage, pretty good scaling and a long range. It also has a pretty low cooldown. It being a skillshot or not providing CC isn't really a valid excuse, as someone with any practice at all can land it more than half of the time.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20166 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nanuk Pihoqahiak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:40:34.377+0000)

Not sure how this is really an argument. It has an exceedingly high base damage, pretty good scaling and a long range. It also has a pretty low cooldown. It being a skillshot or not providing CC isn't really a valid excuse, as someone with any practice at all can land it more than half of the time.

its an argument because it accounts for power budget. she doesnt get as much cc as other mages, but gets a bit more damage in return.

i mean if you like, we can reduce her lvl 1 ult to something like 150 and shes allowed to knock up 5 people like zyra in return. or pull everyone into one spot like ori.

im not even arguing that shes weak, but you guys are looking at ap ratios and base damage in a vaccum without comparing what else other mages have in their kits.

Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 23, 20161 votes

I'm arguing that it's high based on playing her. You can do way over half of someone's health with just E and ult, since the ult consumes her passive. If you poked them at all, which isn't hard to do because her E is extremely easy to land, they're dead.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nanuk Pihoqahiak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00040000000100000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:59:22.045+0000)

I'm arguing that it's high based on playing her. You can do way over half of someone's health with just E and ult, since the ult consumes her passive. If you poked them at all, which isn't hard to do because her E is extremely easy to land, they're dead.

that really depends on the situation and who youre hitting. if you throw down e in a jungle corridor during a fight and hit a squishy, then yes.

in lane its actually difficult to poke your opponent down before you run out of mana, if you dont have some big ap items.

Nanuk PihoqahiakFeb 23, 20162 votes

Untrue. If you start Doran's Ring and are at all decent at last hitting, you can recover a lot of mana to continue harassing. She doesn't need to be reckless with her other three abilities and will only use them when the time is right. You'll almost never cast binding unless it's for sure going to land and you'd only shield for counter engage. It's true that the cost on her E quickly scales up, but it provides mindless harass that only needs to be followed up by one auto to start putting the pressure on.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nanuk Pihoqahiak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0004000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:03:56.417+0000)

Untrue. If you start Doran's Ring and are at all decent at last hitting, you can recover a lot of mana to continue harassing. She doesn't need to be reckless with her other three abilities and will only use them when the time is right. You'll almost never cast binding unless it's for sure going to land and you'd only shield for counter engage. It's true that the cost on her E quickly scales up, but it provides mindless harass that only needs to be followed up by one auto to start putting the pressure on.

if youre conservative with your mana, then youre fine goes for everyone.

practically youre not gonna poke someone down with just spamming e with a doran ring in your inventory. ive seen a top lulu who bought 2 dorans rings and never ran out of mana, even when she spammed her q.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

Average ratio!!!!!!!!!

Absurdity.

Malz, Swa, Kart, Azir have average ratios.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20165 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:37:41.789+0000)

Average ratio!!!!!!!!!

Absurdity.

Malz, Swa, Kart, Azir have average ratios.

theyre not really comparable. they deal sustained damage instead of burst.

lux base cooldowns are about 10 seconds. over 10 seconds time, karthus will have 2.0 ap ratio on his e alone. and that against multiple opponents.

his q might only have a 0.3 to 0.45 ap ratio dependent on how many targets he hits, but he can cast it every second.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:40:42.473+0000)

theyre not really comparable. they deal sustained damage instead of burst.

lux base cooldowns are about 10 seconds. over 10 seconds time, karthus will have 2.0 ap ratio on his e alone.

Malz and Kart sustain?

You learn this game.Lux is op.

Malz?

Malz has average ratio Lux hasn't.

Also Syndra has average ratio Lux hasn't.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20165 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:41:20.881+0000)

Malz and Kart sustain?

You learn this game.Lux is op.

Malz?

Malz has average ratio Lux hasn't.

sustained damage. meaning they contineously deal damage over time instead of damage in large chunks on longer cooldowns.

malz has % hp damage built in his kit and greatly synergizes with liandries. against tanky targets he deals a shitload more damage even with lower ap ratios.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:43:08.393+0000)

sustained damage.

Malz and Syndra sustain??????????????

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20165 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:43:24.960+0000)

Malz and Syndra sustain??????????????

malz w (% health damage), and his e qualify for sustained damage. his q can silence multiple opponents.

and syndra. lol

Damage per sphere: 90/135/180 (+0.2AP). Minimum total damage: 270/405/540 (+0.6AP).

doesnt she get like 900 + 1ap damage on an 5 ball ult?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

Also Anivia has average ratios.Because she is burst mage but Lux?

Lux has insane ratios.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20166 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:53:22.762+0000)

Also Anivia has average ratios.Because she is burst mage but Lux?

Lux has insane ratios.

anivia is currently the top rated mid laner.

and actually her ratios are 1.0 on her q, 1.0 on her e, and .25** per second** on her ult.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:55:54.375+0000)

anivia is currently the top rated mid laner.

and actually her ratios are 1.0 on her q, 1.0 on her e, and .25** per second** on her ult.

Because she is burst mage but Lux?

Why has Lux same damage with Anivia? Absurdity.

Lux's q+ult=Anivia q+e or ult+e.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:57:29.197+0000)

Because she is burst mage but Lux?

Why has Lux same damage with Anivia? Absurdity.

theyre both burst mages. and anivia has almost the same damage in her q + e combo than lux in q + e + r.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:58:23.078+0000)

theyre both burst mages.

But Anivia hasn't stupidly shield.But Anivia's q skill dodgeable but Lux e?

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00090000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:58:53.958+0000)

But Anivia hasn't stupidly shield.But Anivia's q skill dodgeable but Lux e?

no, anivia just has a stupid wall and unlimited waveclear. different strength, shes still not weaker than lux.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:59:37.459+0000)

no, anivia just has a stupid wall and unlimited waveclear.

Stupid wall? A lot fail.Unlimited waveclear?

Like Lux's ult.

Only 25 second.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:59:37.459+0000)

no, anivia just has a stupid wall and unlimited waveclear. different strength, shes still not weaker than lux.

She is weaker than Lux.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-23T15:58:23.078+0000)

theyre both burst mages. and anivia has almost the same damage in her q + e combo than lux in q + e + r.

Lux e+r enough for enemy.

q bonus.

INSANE RATIO.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20164 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=00090000000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:01:43.889+0000)

Lux e+r enough for enemy.

INSANE RATIO.

the total ratio is 1.55. anivias ratio on a q + e is already 2.0

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Kk3I85er,comment-id=000900000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-02-23T16:02:58.634+0000)

the total ratio is 1.55. anivias ratio on a q + e is already 2.0

Then Lux isn't burst mage.Why is this damage?

Only insane ratios.

SpookyNeedleFeb 23, 20161 votes

May I ask, how you feel about Fiora?

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