Why make Tryndamere not have any efficient counterplay?

After3perma··6 votes·2,101 views

The only counterplay to this champion is CC him or hope he fucks up. The CC them counterplay applies to every champion in the game. Oh wait, even if you do CC Tryndamere, it still won't do anything because he can still use ultimate while hard CC'ed and survive death for 5 seconds while using E into 5 enemies picking up at least one kill then running away. You can't build armor to counter him because Conqueror and IE true damage exists. Also he can go the AP build, then you fucked the entire game as good luck trying to counter hybrid damage.

If I hard CC a Master Yi or Yasuo you can kill them, but with Tryndamere you need to wait 5 seconds while the fucking bullshit broken ultimate times out. Do you expect my team to waste 5 seconds of CC on one champion while the rest of his team does whatever they want? If Tryndamere can use a death immunity ultimate while hard CC'ed, allow Kayle to use her ultimate and AAtrox to use his ultimate while hard CC'ed also.

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5050BS4 votes

My Issue with Tryn is the Ult duration is long enough for him to be at 1 hps and an enemy who does not have a 2s Stun who is at 100% to be killed by him.

You cant run, you cant fight, you cant kill him even tho you he is at 1 hp. It means his "Counter play" is pick a champ with a 2s+ stun or one with more HP/Def that be cant shred through in his Ult Duration.

Thats not counter play. Counter play is something that any champ can take advantage of.

"Just CC him" is not counter play.

Quiet Dude3 votes

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Pika Fox2 votes

This has been brought up numerous times, but "CC them" doesnt apply to "every champion in the game".

If i hard CC a burst mage after they pressed their QWER, ive effectively done nothing.

If i CC a tank.... theyre just gunna shrug it off.

Some champions are just heavily more susceptible to CC than others. Kata, Yi, Trynd, Yasuo. All these champions are squishy with minimal tools to stay alive. 3 of which are also melee, meaning they cant get in range of their targets to dish out damage, and CC stops kata's ult, which is the entire reason she is played.

So yes, "Just CC them" is a legitimate statement.

AlienPrimate1 votes

50.2% win rate so broked

I just had a game as AP Tryn where I had to use literally everything to kill a Ryze. I was 6/3 and he was 1/3. He didn't use any summoner spells while I used flash, ignite, and ult and still barely killed him. That was just one enemy who happened to have a short cooldown cc. It doesn't take the entire team using CC on him to shut him down. It only takes one or two people to shut him down in team fights. There is a reason why Tryn avoids team fighting like the plague.

DarukongSr2 votes

I literally used ghost and flash along with randuins active to run away from him as Darius at full hp. I still died to that broken busted POS braindead AA champ. His spin felt like every 3-5 secs and his slow lasted forever. That's not counterplay, that's abuse.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Your champ killed my champ. "braindead"

Every champion in the game takes skill. If he were so easy to play, there wouldn't be any Tryn mains below Platinum.

Fast Enough1 votes

Or instead of whining you can get a burst champion like Zoe or kata and can kill him below 30% hp

Beatrice falls2 votes

Yeah tbh the only times I managed to destroy a Trynda is by simply sneakily deletting him before he can press R. But not a healthy couterplay imo

CppL1 votes

You do know you cant kill him for 5s when he presses R?

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

Tanks can actually handle Trynd so long as you're careful early on. Don't let him start racking kills on you and you'll be fine.

Poppy's got the easiest time with him, her W kills his mobility.

After3perma1 votes

{quoted} Poppy's got the easiest time with him, her W kills his mobility.

16 second W vs AP tryndamere build with 4 second E yeah

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

You clearly can't stop him from spamming his mobility. But that's no different from a number of other champions who have that sort of dumb design.

The trick is stopping the RIGHT spin.

Infernape1 votes

You mean you don't get fucked by RNG early on.

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

No, I do not.

IM A BAD TRYN1 votes

dude tryn isn't a good champion. Wanna know the quickest way to kill him. dont ever and i mean ever go all in on him. you have to waddle him down to low health. Then force him to ult. Then walk away. Then just ignite him at the end of his ult or auto attack him. It really only takes 1 ability. Punish him when he pushes without vision. Or over estimates himself. Better yet if you burst him fast enough he will miss his R.

DarukongSr2 votes

Lmfao if you can ever escape enough to kite. Man get with the times. You can't run unless you are hyper mobile, and you can't trade or poke except at good range. If you stun him, he just slows you and spins into you to finish you with two autos if you are squishy or 5 if you are a reasonably tanky Darius lul

IM A BAD TRYN1 votes

you should permaban him in your games if you dont know how to counter him.

DarukongSr1 votes

I agree fuck this cancer champ man. As a Darius main, I used to go 50-50 in fun matchups against tryn, but the problem is that with his E CD buff and all this new true damage, you literally can't outplay that braindead cancer champ. The moment he hits level 6 I start losing even when ahead and if I kite him. After about level 11-13 he solo dives me under tower when I'm at full health and kills me, if not for another who came behind me to help, tryn would have escaped alive as well. I even had tabi and cold steel. I mean come on man, since when should an immobile juggernaut with a billion counters be losing to late game hyperscaling and hyper mobile melee champs like tryn in the early/mid game when I play right? It's frustrating as heck. The idiot champ can just split all day or be a monster now in team fights. There aren't enough AA slows in the game anymore. Perhaps they should give that back to Darius so he can actually duel hyper melees again since dar is countered by literally everything else now except tanks which are obsolete. I mean, it's not like dar is a solid lane bully anymore or can split push very effectively.

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