Can we please make surrender vote require all 5, or at just not be an option?

RAT IN GAME UwU ··3 votes·664 views

I am twitch with 5 items, enemy team is all low doing baron, i have ult and youmuus up, team is pissed they fought a 4v5 without me and as a 4 man and decide to rage quit via forfeiting,

i literally had a penta and baron steal waiting and that would have been game

because of their lack of skill, lack of map awareness, and bad attitude, my individual rank is negatively effected.

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Juggernaut6282 votes

Simple solution : Duo with someone who won't ff.

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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Simple solution : Duo with someone who won't ff.

I don't want to be forced to have to find someone to play with at all times, the game should be playable for people who don't always have other players on, there are not that many people around me that are diamond + players that i can trust to play on my main with

MrMurphie2 votes

I think requiring all 5 players is unreasonable because if someone is trolling or afk the team can't surrender. I think your issue is that playing solo with a premade is 100% cancerous which I completely agree with

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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I think requiring all 5 players is unreasonable because if someone is trolling or afk the team can't surrender. I think your issue is that playing solo with a premade is 100% cancerous which I completely agree with

What's unreasonable is making 99% of players suffer for 1% of games where a player is trolling

it's not unreasonable to decide to quit as a team. if someone thinks it's still winnable, you help that player until they realize it's not.

The Oasis2 votes

And it's not unreasonable to let 1 person hold an entire team's time hostage?

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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And it's not unreasonable to let 1 person hold an entire team's time hostage?

that's a toxic way of seeing the game, if someone is trolling, you report them, that's it, they're already ruining your time, if they think you can win though and you guys are being negative and salty because you're tilted, no you should not be able to ruin the game for that players because you're inherently toxic

The Oasis1 votes

You don't like being forced to go along with the groups decision? Guess what - neither does anyone else. Most of the time when people want to forfeit it's because the team can't get along (rage and blaming) and therefor it's not fun, or the game is pretty much over due to scaling or your teams inability to stop the tilt and your only chance of coming back is a string of major misplays by the enemy. It happens occasionally, but usually it's due to the enemy team dicking around because they're so far ahead and you didn't actually play well enough to deserve the win. When the game stops being fun or most of the team sees it as unwinnable, I don't think 1 person should decide whether we're stuck or not. Especially when it can just be abused by trolls or people who had their feelings hurt.

Also, please. Just because someone disagrees with regards to when a game is "over," doesn't mean they're toxic. I don't think the "Never Surrender" crowd is toxic, but they are annoying to play with when half the team is fighting and they've all given up in their hearts.

RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votes

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You don't like being forced to go along with the groups decision? Guess what - neither does anyone else. Most of the time when people want to forfeit it's because the team can't get along (rage and blaming) and therefor it's not fun, or the game is pretty much over due to scaling or your teams inability to stop the tilt and your only chance of coming back is a string of major misplays by the enemy. It happens occasionally, but usually it's due to the enemy team dicking around because they're so far ahead and you didn't actually play well enough to deserve the win. When the game stops being fun or most of the team sees it as unwinnable, I don't think 1 person should decide whether we're stuck or not. Especially when it can just be abused by trolls or people who had their feelings hurt.

Also, please. Just because someone disagrees with regards to when a game is "over," doesn't mean they're toxic. I don't think the "Never Surrender" crowd is toxic, but they are annoying to play with when half the team is fighting and they've all given up in their hearts.

when a team forfeits out of momentary impulse rage even though the game is clearly won, it's toxic

no novel you write will ever change my mind on that.

LordGeovanni1 votes

hostage how and you came to play the game play the game its even worse if you cant recolonize why you came to play a game in 20 mins after starting it.

Succubús GF1 votes

No, because reason number one being the amount of trolls you get constitutes a huge portion of a surrender vote in the first place. Also, why werent you with your team? Lack of skill? Scuse me while i look you up. Okay 1, it was a normal so calm down. Secondly, you were barely even, I hate when adcs like you think you can just 1v5 and win the game, that doesnt work like that

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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No, because reason number one being the amount of trolls you get constitutes a huge portion of a surrender vote in the first place. Also, why werent you with your team? Lack of skill? Scuse me while i look you up. Okay 1, it was a normal so calm down. Secondly, you were barely even, I hate when adcs like you think you can just 1v5 and win the game, that doesnt work like that

i'm not talking about a game on this account, and i was stopping a huge wave from taking inhibitor turret in the bot lane, i didn't just appear there, or tp there or something, they saw me and engaged anyway

thanks for your assumptions though, it's great to see some guy who's so excited to troll someone that they just spit out the most venomous garbage they can think of and instantly feel great about themselves

get therapy.

Succubús GF1 votes

Why didnt you say not the game on this account? Use your words? Stop being stupid? Its great to see an idiot who thinks they know everything. Get better

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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Why didnt you say not the game on this account? Use your words? Stop being stupid? Its great to see an idiot who thinks they know everything. Get better

How am i supposed to know some guy is going to nerd rage at me and to give out information about something that has nothing to do with the post?

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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I am twitch with 5 items, enemy team is all low doing baron, i have ult and youmuus up, team is pissed they fought a 4v5 without me and as a 4 man and decide to rage quit via forfeiting,

i literally had a penta and baron steal waiting and that would have been game

because of their lack of skill, lack of map awareness, and bad attitude, my individual rank is negatively effected.

why should I with no confidence in you be forced to stay beyond the required amount to watch you wait for others to make a mistake.

If I wanted to gamble on mistakes I'd go literally gamble. I came here for a strategy game. Get off to your next game or invite some people to play with you

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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why should I with no confidence in you be forced to stay beyond the required amount to watch you wait for others to make a mistake.

If I wanted to gamble on mistakes I'd go literally gamble. I came here for a strategy game. Get off to your next game or invite some people to play with you

it's not really your call, idk where this entitlement comes from "because i feel this way, others have to do what i want"

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

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it's not really your call, idk where this entitlement comes from "because i feel this way, others have to do what i want"

"I feel good about this match so plz make others do what I want rito!" ~TruCarry

RAT IN GAME UwU 2 votes

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"I feel good about this match so plz make others do what I want rito!" ~TruCarry

they quit because they were tilted, that shouldn't be an option, if you queue for a game, play the game, i was extremely fed and would have killed all of them and ended,

they impulse clicked ff and it was 4 - 1 surrender and enemy team laughed and actually reported them for purposely losing the game for me

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

"I feel good about this match so plz make others do what I want rito, I'm fed so I'm entitled to get whatever I want" ~TruCarry

They queued for a game They played the game They opened a surrender feature of the game They left the game as they a were allowed to do by the game They would have stayed if they felt you were worth it, which they didn't for whatever reason.

The fact you are aware of whether or not the enemy reported suggests you are hardly an innocent bystander, the fact you seem to think its worth mentioning doesn't help either

RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votes

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"I feel good about this match so plz make others do what I want rito, I'm fed so I'm entitled to get whatever I want" ~TruCarry

They queued for a game They played the game They opened a surrender feature of the game They left the game as they a were allowed to do by the game They would have stayed if they felt you were worth it, which they didn't for whatever reason.

The fact you are aware of whether or not the enemy reported suggests you are hardly an innocent bystander, the fact you seem to think its worth mentioning doesn't help either

i mean at least i can rest assured no one likes you for always posting condescending toxic shit. lol

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

nothing condescending about the thing you've managed to avoid denying in a strangely subtle way

LordGeovanni1 votes

no one is makeing you play the game you did that your self when you qued up. Its more about sticking to what you set out to do than making people do something that they already signed up for you shouldnt have to in the first place what is this daycare

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

I signed up for what I signed up for.

I did not sign up to wait ten years for you to supposedly carry a lost game or have fun by yourself.

I did sign up to play around 40 minutes maybe an hour, but the game itself says that I can leave early if enough people agree.

Its not daycare, but if I have no respect for or interest in you why the fuck should I sit around playing videogames with you? This will not lead anywhere good. This will not contribute to a healthy game.

If this rule was in place, indeed I would not bother playing such a game or I would simply leave as needed until I was banned and thus would no longer play said game as many others would. I may get several hundred games in with people I like more but eventually I might get banned under this system depending on how strictly the rule would be enforced.

But in short I would rather stop playing at all than have to put up with your shit, correct it is not a daycare.. which is why I can leave your ass behind at any reasonable time I like.

Spicy Rice1 votes

That's literally what your post is....

LordGeovanni1 votes

Strategically put a win together or stop pushing the play button to que up. When one strategy doesnt work you make another that is the essence of strategy games not trying 1 strategy and giving up cause you didnt get an easy win out of 1 try.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

Only a damn fool would give up on a strategy after one try then continue trying to switch to something new over and over again within the same game hoping that it will somehow change something.

If you want to go down this road then the second the strategy doesn't work out I should ditch your ass 5 minutes into the game and try it over and over until I have enough data to come to a conclusion about my strategy rather than just switching strats like a headless chicken everytime something doesn't go my way, leaving me with no functional strat and no significant information about the results of my strategy.

At the end of the day your excuses only make it more necessary to be able to leave early. If I surrender now 1 try can become 10 tries and I can abandon a bad strategy or I can just waste all my playtime helping you get off to yourself.. If you were doing so good just pat yourself on the back and let me leave. Your assumptions will help you feel good and everybody wins.

LordGeovanni1 votes

That is how any military or political campain is run even companies except riot who will tell you what you want.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

No it isn't, that isn't true at all. Not for the victors anyways.

GEE our strategy isn't working why don't we switch a few things around and continue throwing our troops at this single location we can't seem to capture!!!

That isn't how winning armies operate. When you fuck up massively if you have the option of pulling out and trying again after a new start you do that. Political campaigns that do this go down in flames.

YambrinZ1 votes

My vote would be to get rid of surrender vote in ranked. Otherwise who cares, its funsies.

RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votes

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My vote would be to get rid of surrender vote in ranked. Otherwise who cares, its funsies.

it shouldn't exist in ranked, if you want to quit early in a normal, fine...but be ready to play the fucking game if you queue up for a competitive game mode.

LordGeovanni1 votes

ive been saying this for at least 2 years and right around that time is when I first saw pros surrendering and watched it become more and more common among the general player base.

Calabok1 votes

dumb idea.

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