We need to buff AP Carries.

tieger05··7 votes·546 views

They're still ridiculously weak. All of them. Its sad seeing Zed get his 4th consecutive buff in a row (because riot bias) yet champions like Lissandra, Diana, Azir, Syndra, Viktor, Taliyah, and Mord have been catching dust for ages.

Bring justice for AP carries!

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vgamedude1 votes

nah dude we need more hot buffs for champions like kai sa

Cynikul1 votes

Your own stats:

Diana Rank: 3,367
(OCE: 54) 11.8 / 7.0 / 7.1 103 63.1% Katarina Mastery Level 6 Katarina Rank: 15,951
(OCE: 175) 11.8 / 8.9 / 5.5 65 58.5% Xayah Mastery Level 4 Xayah Rank: 179,658
(OCE: 2,074) 6.0 / 6.8 / 6.6 11 63.6% LeBlanc LeBlanc Rank: -
8.4 / 4.9 / 7.0 9 66.7%

Nope, they appear just fine. In fact, none of the ones you mention need really anything. Maybe lissandra, The rest nope. Maybe Lux. Battle mages are so strong though, Victor, Diana, Ryze, Katarina (although a different in and out playstyle) are all incredibly strong.

Nίram2 votes

I disagree on some of them. Viktor is not really fine, he still sucks hard. There are way too many champs who do the same thing he does (basically waveclear and scale in order to 5v5 later on) but they do it better / they don't suck in lane.

Viktor is super frustrating to play during laning phase, a mage where you have to play fleet footwork to survive the lane ^^.You deal 0, literally 0 damage before the 25/30 minutes, you are basically useless in skirmishes before you complete the hextech and one item. Ryze is good, but you have to actually play him so much in order to get to a decent level on him, and it's still hard to carry with him cause yeah, he has damage, but he's more an utility mage who roots a champ for 2 seconds and not an hypercarry. Syndra isn't in a really good spot at the moment, she is "fine" but she isn't strong enough to compete with other mages mid. Azir is similar to ryze, but he has more potential in late 5v5 fights. He is very hard to learn, he has a decent lane, but he must build nashor tooth which means he will always be out of mana if he wants to push. Being out of mana, or low on mana, in a meta where basically every midlaner buils tear or roa is kinda XD imo. He is very hard to learn like ryze too . Lissandra is just lissandra. It seems like riot doesn't like her , otherwise I can't explain myself why she isn't getting a buff since she is struggling from a loooong time. I'd also bring up leblanc, she isn't really bad at the moment in my opinion, she isn't very good too though. But she is going to get the revert soon, we will see out it ends up, even though I'm VERY scared about it. My actual impression on the leblanc revert isn't one of the best I could have. No waveclear in a waveclear meta, and less damage than she used to have. We will see.

And î oop1 votes

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I disagree on some of them. Viktor is not really fine, he still sucks hard. There are way too many champs who do the same thing he does (basically waveclear and scale in order to 5v5 later on) but they do it better / they don't suck in lane.

Viktor is super frustrating to play during laning phase, a mage where you have to play fleet footwork to survive the lane ^^.You deal 0, literally 0 damage before the 25/30 minutes, you are basically useless in skirmishes before you complete the hextech and one item. Ryze is good, but you have to actually play him so much in order to get to a decent level on him, and it's still hard to carry with him cause yeah, he has damage, but he's more an utility mage who roots a champ for 2 seconds and not an hypercarry. Syndra isn't in a really good spot at the moment, she is "fine" but she isn't strong enough to compete with other mages mid. Azir is similar to ryze, but he has more potential in late 5v5 fights. He is very hard to learn, he has a decent lane, but he must build nashor tooth which means he will always be out of mana if he wants to push. Being out of mana, or low on mana, in a meta where basically every midlaner buils tear or roa is kinda XD imo. He is very hard to learn like ryze too . Lissandra is just lissandra. It seems like riot doesn't like her , otherwise I can't explain myself why she isn't getting a buff since she is struggling from a loooong time. I'd also bring up leblanc, she isn't really bad at the moment in my opinion, she isn't very good too though. But she is going to get the revert soon, we will see out it ends up, even though I'm VERY scared about it. My actual impression on the leblanc revert isn't one of the best I could have. No waveclear in a waveclear meta, and less damage than she used to have. We will see.

i must say i dont like the current meta at all. I agree with everything you said especially lissandra, my love needs a mini rework at least :(

AirKingNeo1 votes

Lissandra is an anti bruiser control mage, not an APC.

Diana is an AP diver.

Azir is S tier.

Syndra is a burst mage, not an AP.

Viktor and Taliyah could use buffs, but Zed hasn't been meta in over 2 years man.

Morde is a monstrosity of existence and bugs.

Lauchmelder2 votes

"Azir is S tier"

Wat? Azir is trash tier in low elo and by far not S tier in high elo

AirKingNeo1 votes

Still pick-ban? Yeah, he's probably S tier.

nm10101 votes

Lissandra - Could use a small buff, but you have to be careful because she is very binary when she is good.

Diana - Champion is absolutely fine.

Azir - Was just addressed as a champion that will not be buffed in solo q due to his competitive dominance.

Syndra - They are looking at Syndra for changes last I heard.

Viktor - Could use some small buffs. Like Lissandra he tends to take buffs and run rampant, I'd like to give him +25 aa range personally.

Taliyah - Is mostly fine, but I would really like some mana costs lowered.

Mord - Purposely kept moderate - weak in power until his next rework.

Ahri Baka1 votes

You forgot to mention Lux and Ahri and Annie , Annie might be strong enough to 100-0 most of mages , but sadly her range won't allow that the reason why Riot is buffing Zed is because he is weak against this bot lane meta , but mages were forgotten , if Zed is bad , then mages are worse , he is always strong against most of mages , buffing him is just ... perma banning him anyway Syndra doesn't really need buffs on her damage , she has a great damage in her kit , what needs buffs about her is Range , it's very risky to q and w As for Fizz , I'd like to see him getting nerfed lol , even if he is ap

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