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screwed up ranked mmr

Ailady·4/30/2018, 1:26:07 PM·4 votes·3,050 views

the mmr crap doesnt seem to work at all, it seems like one side is always has the best players while your team has people that were carried to gold or are unbelievably bad to even belong in bronze..

I just had my second match in 1500 mmr with two gold elo and my entire team playing like they are wood 5 (i was autofilled so i went morgana support) https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2773746769/33056822?tab=overview

turns out 4 of my opponents are gold and their jungler was silver 1, they destroyed us because irelia decided to play a first time champ and feed the hell out of rengar and yasuo was a questionable player, yi kept making the mistakes of going to the fed lanes and lucian kept going into the jungle and getting fed.

how in any way is this mmr crap fair and balanced? there is no way the people on my team including me even belong in 1500 mmr, i'm freaking unranked.. mmr system is busted

my 4th match with tristana had more gold players on my team this time however they were playing just as poorly as a team of bronze, bot lane was ganked by nocturne ult while yasuo kept dying to rengar, diana did nothing but farm and didn't roam / didn't follow mid laner malz (fortunately malz didn't do much other than grab an early kill at dragon because diana decided to stay mid and harass the team for being bad) the support seemed like she was autofilled never landing 1 bubble.. https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2773758237/33056822?tab=overview

i noticed rengar and nocturne in both of my lost matches, and how bursty champs are and how people think it would go well playing a first time champ in ranked and continuing to engage or go near the fed champions.. where did they leave their common sense? i've refrained from trying to ranked because i expect this but this is worse than i could have imagined, i wondered why all my friends who couldn't climb past platinum / gold quit. i actually know some people that are stuck in bronze that don't belong there despite people claiming "if you're good enough you can climb out of it" no just no the only way you are going to climb out of it is by playing alot of matches and eventually having the better team.

but then what is the point of getting out of bronze if you have the same exact retarrds in silver / gold / plat? ( i heard even diamond has these people considering there are always people that get carried luckily despite not belonging in that following elo and this retarrded mmr probably plays the part in helping bad ppl get lucky and achieve higher elo than they deserve.)

this mmr crap is bad and needs to be redone or reverted, why can't we have a normal rank system and find better ways to seperate the good from the bad? why allow the worst decide the match from the champ selection? why must we lost lp and dodge a sure lost game and wait 15 minutes on top of that? i mean if we were able to carry properly again this wouldn't have been an issue.

i remember back in season 2, me being bad didn't hurt the team because all i had to do was listen to the team and cooperate with them to make come backs, where are the come backs now? great game by the way every thing is decided by the first 5-10 minutes and everyone goes gg ff at 15, what a fun game it has become..

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16 Comments

comedybingbongs4/30/2018, 1:30:27 PM1 votes

The MMR system is fine. There is just no penalty for not taking ranked seriously and playing champions you aren't good with. This might change next year with all the changes to ranked, who knows.

I suggest you op.gg your entire team every game. If you see that you have a 25% winrate lucian, I would suggest you dodge. -3 LP and wasting 3 minutes in penalty que is worth wasting 25 minutes in game + losing 20 LP + having a decrease in MMR

Ratpie4/30/2018, 1:43:12 PM1 votes

I think there are some problems, but I think it is more complex than MMR, although I wonder if MMR is part of it. Far too many games with mismatched skill levels. It is like playing the lottery with who you get. Silver feels like a mess. Gold is a little mor consistent, but still has people that you are like WTF? they do not even know how to freeze a lane or not push.

Here is a recent story that may mean something or nothing about how ranked works out:

I did a game with a bunch of people on friends list. We were ranked all over the place. We had unranked, bronze, silver, gold, and plat. We just randomly joined on invite and ended up with all plat/gold on one side and silver bronze on the other. At first people were like should we even out teams? and then we were like meh lets do this. We wanted to play all out so we went with champs we knew. I destroyed the poor Annie I went mid vs with Anivia. But then the gold-plat players on my team just crumpled to the silver-bronze players. At the end of the game the gold/plat players are like wtf? that was harder than games we play at our ELO. They got straight up outplayed. This was just one game, but it was a pretty sound beating. In the highest ranks it may really be different but bronze through plat seems a bit messy.

Madsin254/30/2018, 3:10:07 PM1 votes

The rank means absolutely nothing. Sad but true.

The MMR is what matters. Looking through your match history the MMR(excluding you since you are not ranked yet) is actually extremely close in match.

Technically you are playing in the 1450ish MMR range which is Silver 2 I believe?

Good luck.

Nevurwin4/30/2018, 4:31:04 PM1 votes

Welcome to Rank queue my friend! :)

Beerstein4/30/2018, 4:42:42 PM1 votes

I think MMR is pretty accurate. I stopped playing ranked though as my current skill level doesn't match my ranked MMR yet (rust). I'm trying to get normals to match it before I jump back in. I'm moving up pretty fast though. I can very visibly see the differences though, and this is between like silver 4 and silver 2 MMRs.

Also, when I duo with someone that brings us to around Silver 5 I absolutely stomp face. Honestly, at least at silver, the differences are huge if you know what to look for. Maybe that's just because I've been up at gold MMR in the past and can more easily see what's not being done right.

Silver 5=super selfish, no map awareness, poor decision making. Silver 3-4=not as selfish play, no map awareness, poor decision making. Silver 2=Improving map awareness, poor decision making. Silver 1=Decent map awareness, not great decision making.

Not even kidding, it's really visible. Different people have different weaknesses, but these are the primary differences I see. Also very little warding until S1, even then it's not very consistent.

It's ironic, part of repairing my rust is not just mechanics/knowledge, but re-training myself to not do things that I know are dumb and do anyways. A little brainpower goes a long way.

Anyways, after that point going up I'm pretty sure it's mostly small things, and mainly just choices/decision making. As far as CS goes, I've seen challenger level CS at pretty much ALL ranks, just the ones that do at bronze make REALLY dumb decisions that usually involve "get as much gold as I can regardless of if I feed the enemy just as much while doing it, no one on my team matters but me, I watch streams, they say you gotta carry yourself."

çhaotisch9/28/2018, 2:27:23 PM1 votes

The balance on Matchmaking is a JOKE , total joke , IDk how you manage to pull 1 troll , 1 afk , 1-2 feeders 70% of the games ( in ranked ) . it´s like a BIG JOKE , playing silver rank some people play like BOTS and they are still silver .. other ppl go troll ,etc Noone is getting banned ( on the reports cos 80% of the games we report people ) ppl play rank as a joke to feed , troll afk and MMR ,etc is 100% not working .

Gnarlolek2/9/2020, 1:31:56 PM1 votes

Ranked is so bad right now there is no point in playing it, rank now is literaly how lucky have you been with dice rolls on getting team, either you did get that one monkey that ints intire game or you won. Its pure BS