Continue lying to yourself.. but elo hell is real and deep down you know it is.

BlackRaven··5 votes·1,023 views

3 games in a row when ur the only one to win lane but losing the game because their adc and top can 1 shot you proves yet again that matchmaking is horrible anddd elo hell is real. how do u climb when the first thought process you have to think of is that ur team is horrific and u have to play it 1v5. continue thinking carrying 1v5 is easy. keep at it. but the second u get an afk or a troll u cry about it. but when u go on a win streak u laugh at others who have trolls on their teams. pathetic.

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Arsenals2 votes

Elo hell = Dunning-kruger effect.

It doesn't exist. It's just people thinking they're better than they are when in reality they're exactly where they belong and refuse to admit it.

Look to silver sub games from popular streamers. The "commentary" from the high diamond streamers are a joke. They're just laughing at how the silver players literally don't do anything "correctly". The people who recognize their mistakes and lack of skill will progress and rise. The ones who blame will remain where they are.

BlackRaven2 votes

Elo hell = Dunning-kruger effect.

It doesn't exist. It's just people thinking they're better than they are when in reality they're exactly where they belong and refuse to admit it.

Look to silver sub games from popular streamers. The "commentary" from the high diamond streamers are a joke. They're just laughing at how the silver players literally don't do anything "correctly". The people who recognize their mistakes and lack of skill will progress and rise. The ones who blame will remain where they are.

if im smurfing and 3 games in a row i cant carry because EVERY lane besides me lost, whats it sopposed to mean. bad luck? nah its a failed system.

Arsenals2 votes

You're going to attribute 3 games to being an acceptable sample size? Get real.

On one hand you're saying you're a smurf (which means you're at a higher rating). On the other you're saying you can't win when you're smurfing because of the system. So how did you even get the current rating on your main? You're contradicting yourself on principle.

Elo hell doesn't exist. It's very possible to lose 3 games in a row then win 50 in a row while smurfing. If I were to play on a silver account, I guarantee I would win 90% of all games that were 5v5 and even over 50% of 4v5's (which doesn't happen often, despite what a lot of GDers say).

The system is fine (and exactly the same as it's always been, it just looks different).

GlitchedOut1 votes

Elo hell = Dunning-kruger effect.

It doesn't exist. It's just people thinking they're better than they are when in reality they're exactly where they belong and refuse to admit it.

Look to silver sub games from popular streamers. The "commentary" from the high diamond streamers are a joke. They're just laughing at how the silver players literally don't do anything "correctly". The people who recognize their mistakes and lack of skill will progress and rise. The ones who blame will remain where they are.

if im smurfing and 3 games in a row i cant carry because EVERY lane besides me lost, whats it sopposed to mean. bad luck? nah its a failed system.

3 games isn't statistically valid. 10 games isn't even valid.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

I like to believe elo hell is exist I was on the verge of reaching my silver 2 promos then lost say idk 12~ times in a row and dropped to silver 3 Now I'm not saying i deserve to be in silver 1 but wow, uuh that really sucked maybe if I had won say.... 3 or those 12, that be cool some of those games i fked up... majority of it was just the team ;/

I dont think i belong in silver 3... fk I already shown I got through that crap (was about to rereach silv 2 but season ended and I dont care anymore) maye that was just one big burst of badluck and it started to fade away as i closed in on silv 3 promos

but I can see this happening/and it does consistently to alot of people

Like what does me believing where I belong matter? What ever team that gets thrown at me isnt gonna care if I believe i should be the next challenger lol, theyre still gonna fail/win to the best of their ability and I have little control over that

I aint jesus, I dont make miracles happen every game

Arsenals1 votes

Believing you're silver 2 and actually being silver 3 isn't a big difference. This has nothing to do with "elo hell". You may or may not be silver 2 level. You may or may not be silver 4 level. The skill gap between silver 4 and silver 2 isn't substantial, at all. I guarantee over half of the 9 people in your game all believe they belong at least 1 or 2 divisions higher than they are (if not more) - yet all 5-10 of you are where you are.

That person who had a bad game at silver 2 and went 0/5? He thinks he's gold level. The guy who went 5/0 when his team was 0/14 also believes he's gold level.

I've hit challenger solo queue on two accounts and had multiple D1 accounts. I've been on the rank 2 challenger 5s team and played in NACS qualifier tournaments. Guess what? I've had games in solo queue and 5s where I've gone 0/9. I've also had games where I'm 23/2, in the same queues with the same exact players. It happens to each and every person, at every elo, in every queue.

Not every game is winnable. Are you going to get bad teammates sometimes? Yes. Are you going to be a bad teammate sometimes? Yes. I've lost a normal game as Kha where I was 56/2. 56/2 and I lost (my team had 3 total assists, I wish I still had the screenshot). I've won a game where the enemy Vayne got a quadra kill during a lvl1 invade. I've also won games where I've been 0/13 in solo queue.

You've carried players, just as they've carried you. Everyone has bad games and bad days, it's just much easier to recognize other mistakes and mitigate yours. It's much easier to blame your teammate for not following up than manning up and saying "you know what, I shouldn't of even initiated that fight in the first place".

Of course, people lose because of there teammates a lot. There's something like 27 million players who play on a daily basis. That's room for a LOT of shitty games and a lot of good games. Personally, and I believe this true for a lot of others as well, when I have a good game (whether it's via my gameplay or just an overall good experience with my team) my initial reaction isn't "lets post on the forums about it!" - it's "I really want to play again". Rather than posting about it, I'm going to just play and ride my "high". I don't post when I have bad games or bad teammates, but I'm certain people are far more inclined to complain about their team on the forums than post when they got a good/decent game. You have to take into account sample size and prejudice, which unfortunately nobody does.

Elo hell does not exist. The system is working perfectly fine. Are you going to be exactly where you should be in 10 games? 50? 100? No. Maybe not. But over time, you will. Like I said, if you deserve silver 2 but you're silver 3 it's going to take time to get there since you're barely better (not taking into account the other s3 people that deserve s2) than the players you're with. On the contrary, if you're a diamond player playing with silvers, it'll be a cake walk barring extremely bad luck (which isn't consistent, at all).

Grimspeake2 votes

elo hell is being silver and having bronze 2-3 teammates :(

KellenGrace1 votes

Wait, wat? Aren't you Diamond?

Leti the Yeti1 votes

I'm too lazy to search him up if he really is diamond but I asked about elo hell some eons ago and apparently its not just for bronze V

elo hell is that area between constant promotion and demotion in any tier, atleast thats what i gathered

KellenGrace1 votes

So... if you're not climbing... you're in ELO hell? That seems remarkably short-sighted. "If I'm not winning, clearly there's something wrong with matchmaking."

Leti the Yeti1 votes

lel who knows ~ 3~ I asked, board people answered, its the best I gots

but you would have alot more than ur winning to get demoted

BlackRaven1 votes

Wait, wat? Aren't you Diamond?

smurfing atm in gold 1 with plat mmr and the people i play with resemble silvers.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

I think its all luck ;l

obvious math tells me the number of wins are equal to the number of losses meaning theres only so many wins to be distributed around some people are lucky even if those who win 1 lose 1 consistently will climb since you gain more than you lose then you got those unlucky losers that are here to benefit the more fortunate and the above group

Zaikyo1 votes

I agree only in the context of "All Elo is Elo hell."

Grimspeake1 votes

want to play on my account and see how many games are 4v5 or sometimes even 4v6...

FlubbyDG1 votes

Nope, I climbed to silver from bronze 1, and it was because of a choice of how I would start playing. I practiced roles in normal till I could fill. I made sure that, when I don't get a troll or afk on me team, I damn well better carry and coordinate and make sure we make the best of it and win. And if we are losing, I still try to keep people positive, and once in a great while we comeback. And I didn't bitch at team for feeding, as that makes morale fall apart and people stop caring. And it worked - after 3 seasons in bronze, I got to silver. So no, I don't "know it's true" deep inside.

DJ Hatsune Miku1 votes

Just pick warwick lel

Cupkek1 votes

I find 'elo-hell' to be a personal space completely different from another teammate's 'elo-hell'.

Personally, my Elo-Hell is winning a bunch of games, getting to 89 LP or so and then having a string of trolls/feed/afk take it all away.

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