@meddler Ludens echo is a poorly designed item

It only creates the illusion of choice, exacerbates toxic poke patterns like ap kog or xerath or is plain sub optimal.

the item is designed to be efficient on champions with low ap ratios yet the item offers 120 ap

For real the only in combat champs this is good on are kat vlad zac. every other character is toxic as fuck with it such as AP kogmaw ap corki xerath.

basically it doesnt create any gameplay because its suboptimal on champions who infight and for champions who dont will be stacking the item with existing playpatterns already

you designed this item to be bad on ryze and Cassiopeia you were so afraid of it that you made a bad item..... remake it