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Latest lissandra PBE changes

calforrai·3/6/2015, 1:33:09 PM·3 votes·2,600 views

With liss's recent popularity and dominance in many regions, it seems that nerfs are inevitable. The latest PBE change: Ice Shard (Q) damage lowered to 70/100/130/160/190 from 75/110/145/180/215 I've played liss before she rose to popularity and have always seen her as a strong champion (absolutely love her passive) so i feel like i can judge her current power objectively.

Liss is not a very skillshot dependent champion, all her spells are pretty much guaranteed to hit when she's in 400-500 range. And liss can often get into that range from far away with the help of Glacial Path (E). Although E is slow and the indicator is visible to enemy, it is still a very effective mobility skill, so there is no need for it to be a high damage aoe spell at the same time.

I don't know the context of the PBE change. But Q damage nerf simply isn't in the right direction. should instead test to reduce E's base and scaling damage, or revert Q cooldown to 6/5.5/5/4.5/4 sec. if these changes still doesn't address her power, then look into E range. Because what really set liss apart from kennen/annie/rumble (in competitive play) is her ability to make long range flanks/engage. Nerfs should look to take away unnecessary power. And for liss, her damage and cc aren't a problem at all.

6 Comments

Fed by Snu Snu3/6/2015, 1:58:16 PM2 votes

Lissandra's problem has always been her innability to get through a strong front line.

The problem isn't Lissandra. It's riot's repeated nerfs towards tanks.

There's actual games where I can even skip building VS altogether. That's how ridiculous itemization is.

Also, spectre's cowl need to be buffed so that it provide meaningful regen like it did before the pre-season changes, so that champions can actually lane against her. Once again, the problematic factor isn't Lissandra here.

But Riot will do neither, so why do I even bother.

BeatzBoyFTW3/6/2015, 1:34:39 PM1 votes

Getting smacked in the face by Liss's Q which deals AoE damage & first target slows, on various free casts as a melee champion, is not very fun......

ModAcademy Kayn3/6/2015, 2:47:07 PM1 votes

Swain I will make her bleed...

Fasmodey3/6/2015, 5:18:21 PM1 votes

Next patch will nerf her a lot already. Not because of Q nerf, it's more about tank buffs because she was weak against tank. Her damage was low against them, medicore on squishies. But with tank nerfs, she became an Orianna. I believe next patch will decrease her winrate and pick rate.