Why is Urgot so bad?

GD3RD·Apr 27, 2017·3 votes·3,623 views

What is wrong with Urgot that he is never played? How is his damage, other stats, when compared to other champions? Are there just better options? Why are they better?

35 Comments

StellafreyjaApr 27, 20175 votes

he ugly

TheHappyReaperzApr 27, 20173 votes

He's an early game champion, heavily gated by mana costs. He can do well, but it takes a lot more effort to succeed as Urgot, than with a more Meta top laner. Late game he falls off heavily, and his playstyle often puts him at odds with his build. After all, teleporting into the enemy team, isn't the best idea, when you are an artillery marksman.

Wind WhistlerMay 3, 20171 votes

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He's an early game champion, heavily gated by mana costs. He can do well, but it takes a lot more effort to succeed as Urgot, than with a more Meta top laner. Late game he falls off heavily, and his playstyle often puts him at odds with his build. After all, teleporting into the enemy team, isn't the best idea, when you are an artillery marksman.

If you teleport into the enemy team, it's safe to say that you're either mentally retarded or are trying to feed.

Also, how the fuck are you an early game champion if you're heavily gated by mana costs? He doesn't fall off late game, either. This is the same shit people fucking said for Yorick, and now he's gone, and replaced with a champion who can remove you from the game by pressing three fucking buttons a single time. Murumana is a great late game item, especially on him. I think you, and everyone else, just doesn't know how to build him, and are shit at playing him in general.

Don't get another champion removed from the game just because you fail to understand him.

TheHappyReaperzMay 3, 20171 votes

"Also, how the fuck are you an early game champion if you're heavily gated by mana costs?"

And now you know why Urgot is bad.

"He doesn't fall off late game, either. This is the same shit people fucking said for Yorick, and now he's gone, and replaced with a champion who can remove you from the game by pressing three fucking buttons a single time."

He does fall of lategame though. His lack of hard CC, mix of damage and defense, and meh scalings prevent him from being good lategame. Yorick did, and still does, fall of lategame. He had zero hard cc, he was immobile, and he lacked aoe damage, so he was pretty bad in teamfights. He still did damage, but it was hard to get any meaningful damage off. That said, if you think current Yorick one-shots people, you are fucking stupid. His entire kit revolves around a damage over time mechanic.

"Murumana is a great late game item, especially on him."

Sure it is. That doesn't change any of the factors as to why Urgot falls off lategame.

Wind WhistlerMay 7, 20171 votes

He's not an early game champion to begin with. He's good in all stages of the game. No idea what people are building on him, but what I build works just fine. I never said that Yorick one shots people. I said that all he has to do is press three buttons. After that, you're getting fucked to death by ghouls and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Running isn't an option this time, and fighting is even more useless than before. Urgot has extremely hard and long ranged CC. Urgot's VERY tanky and deals PLENTY of damage late game. Once again, no idea what kind of shitty Urgot players you're seeing, or you're looking up, but any decent Urgot can contribute a good amount in a team fight.

Also, Yorick wasn't immobile. His Q was pretty damn good for mobility.

TheHappyReaperzMay 7, 20171 votes

"He's not an early game champion to begin with. He's good in all stages of the game."

Urgot's early game allows him to harass easily, meaning that he gets a lot of early game damage. His mid game shifts to more of shredding opponents armor, and dealing damage where he can. Late game, Urgot struggles a bit more, since he has no hard CC to protect himself, has mixed damage and defenses, which leaves him vulnerable to people who went full damage, and unable to deal with people who went full tank.

"Urgot has extremely hard and long ranged CC"

If you are talking about his ult, it CC's him as well. And then it switches him with his target, making it harder to use in teamfights. If you are talking about his W slow, its a 40% slow. Neither of these are good CC.

"Once again, no idea what kind of shitty Urgot players you're seeing, or you're looking up, but any decent Urgot can contribute a good amount in a team fight."

Well, I checked through your Urgot games, and I seem to build the same as you. Except, I swap out Edge of Night, for Death's Dance. Again, contributing a good amount doesn't mean much. Anyone who isn't a potato contributes a good amount to team fights.

"I never said that Yorick one shots people. I said that all he has to do is press three buttons."

Actually, you said "and replaced with a champion who can remove you from the game by pressing three fucking buttons a single time." Does that not sound like a one-shot on someone?

"Also, Yorick wasn't immobile. His Q was pretty damn good for mobility."

Yorick had the same amount of mobility as Garen, the only difference being, his Q didn't cleanse slows. Neither of those champions are mobile, and both are easily kited.

Big Mid GuyApr 28, 20173 votes

How Dare you. I cant even put into words how DISSAPOINTED I am in you. Calling the most OP champ bad. URGOD is a champ that takes weeks to learn and years to master. Its not riots fault you cant understand his insane mechanics and complex game play... Think before u speak

RalanrApr 27, 20172 votes

His mana costs are nuts and he falls off super hard.

Whenever I see an enemy Urgot. 8 out of 10 times the enemy loses because it becomes a 4v5.

Wind WhistlerMay 3, 20171 votes

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His mana costs are nuts and he falls off super hard.

Whenever I see an enemy Urgot. 8 out of 10 times the enemy loses because it becomes a 4v5.

"Falls off super hard". Get the fuck out of here with your circlejerking bullshit. You've already got them to remove Yorick, and it's still not enough for you?

RalanrMay 3, 20171 votes

I've had well received ideas about reworking Pantheon that doesn't gut him actually.

TyrekGoldenspearMay 3, 20171 votes

I dunno...

I type in "Yorick" in the client under "My Collection" and he still shows up.

I don't think he was removed...

Wind WhistlerMay 7, 20171 votes

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I dunno...

I type in "Yorick" in the client under "My Collection" and he still shows up.

I don't think he was removed...

STILL shows up? Even after he was removed? I think you need to get your eyes checked, sir. Yorick has officially been removed from the game.

EedatApr 27, 20172 votes

He's a very short ranged ADC. His damage falls off super hard very early. His ult makes absolutely no sense on what is supposed to be an ADC. Mana problems.

Wind WhistlerMay 3, 20171 votes

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He's a very short ranged ADC. His damage falls off super hard very early. His ult makes absolutely no sense on what is supposed to be an ADC. Mana problems.

He's not a fucking ADC. Having a ranged auto attack doesn't automatically make you an ADC. The problem is that people like you mistake uniqueness for either bad design or a shitty champion.

Stop being such a narrow-minded sheep.

Nick Da ChipApr 27, 20172 votes

Urgot isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He has a hard time late game getting damage off. If you miss his E there goes alot of your damage potential.

Violet FieldsApr 28, 20171 votes

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Urgot isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He has a hard time late game getting damage off. If you miss his E there goes alot of your damage potential.

The only thing his E does, aside from lowing armor and landing Qs easier, is to do like 300 damage over 5 seconds. Just because you missed it, doesn't mean you can't still use your Q. Urgot's Q is basically where his damage comes from, it does a moderate amount of damage but it also scales with 85% ad which is huge.

Nick Da ChipApr 28, 20172 votes

Dododo. The armor reduction is pretty detrimental on taking down targets quickly. The safety on E also always you to back away from the enemy team to finish off targets so you yourself don't die. It's pretty detrimental to land. He still does decent damage without it of course, (if that was your argument) but not landing that E can often be the difference between a kill or not.

LyingOnLineApr 28, 20172 votes

His kit's badly designed, and he was so super-cancer when he was strong that he got permanently kneecapped.

Proxy345Apr 28, 20172 votes

Because just like Ryze,Urgot's ult is way too situational.

ZexvainApr 27, 20171 votes

His kit just doesn't go together at all. Why would an ADC want to swap places with another player?

Violet FieldsApr 27, 20171 votes

Run 24 Lethality runes, build item 3070 first, then build item 3071 .

Then he sucks until 40 minutes into the game. <farms all game, never groups up>

Builds item 3110 item 3042 item 3111 item 3812 item 3147

Urgot : Yay, I can kill things now...

Before the armor penetration nerfs, he was so much better than he is now. He could one shot an adc with one E + Q + Q + Thunderlords combo at level 1.

RenownedWheat42Apr 28, 20171 votes

Just so you know that combo requires level 2.

Violet FieldsApr 28, 20171 votes

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Just so you know that combo requires level 2.

You know what I mean...

Darkdemon653Apr 27, 20171 votes

His locked-on Q range got slashed by 300 a few years ago (and is simply not a long enough range)
His W is mediocre and does not fit him in the slightest
His E does nothing except enable his Q to land
His R is a DPS loss and a self-imposed death sentence

Tobias BracknerApr 28, 20171 votes

He's a weird champ that requires work but has some badass tools.

You want to use him in a pick comp and I'll take him as a bot laner if we already have a shitton of AD dmg.

The Last BalladApr 28, 20171 votes

He's fun with Soraka in the bot lane. You sit there, and you trade. And you trade. And you trade. And you trade. Then you go back when your mana's low, and you start trading again. All the while being at nearly full health due to the stargoat.

LuggApr 28, 20171 votes

Urgot is by no means a bad champ. He just isn't popular due to a combination of his look, kit, and the fact that his gameplay is different from most ADCs.

I have seen Urgot mains be able to fill any role and dominate.

Wind WhistlerMay 3, 20172 votes

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Urgot is by no means a bad champ. He just isn't popular due to a combination of his look, kit, and the fact that his gameplay is different from most ADCs.

I have seen Urgot mains be able to fill any role and dominate.

Thank you for telling people the truth. I wish there were more people like you on this terrible world.