Riot should implement another permaban redemption program

GD3RD·Oct 24, 2017·3 votes·949 views

So recently I got banned for 1. Inting games and 2. Being toxic in chat, and got a perma just 2 days ago for griefing.... honestly I feel like there should be some way of getting my $500 dollar account back... if Riot truly believes in reforming, why not implement a system of let’s say, get an account to honor 5 in x amount of time to get my account back? Honesty riot is full of shit about their whole reforming gig if they don’t have some system of getting perma accounts back... Riot enployees please comment, also to add, the reform project they did years ago that failed miserably shouldn’t mean that they should never try again, Einstein failed 100 experiments before the lightbulb.....

23 Comments

Magical PlayerOct 24, 201712 votes

You were warned 3 times that if the behavior continued you'd be banned you didn't listen why would adding another level to that change anything?

GD3RDOct 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uT6M9Ryr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-24T05:22:44.643+0000)

You were warned 3 times that if the behavior continued you'd be banned you didn't listen why would adding another level to that change anything?

Stop trolling please.

You aren’t contributing the the discussion, you are just trolling and I refuse to give you he reaction you want.

Like I said, riot employees please come and talk.

Magical PlayerOct 24, 201710 votes

Riot employees rarely with posts like these, almost never reaches them. Mods sure, they get around but a rioter is like a unicorn its very rare to see one down here

Tell me how adding another level to the punishment/reform system would change anything?

CR 10 Cr25 B-14(15 now) Ban Perma What good does adding an extra step do?

BeatzBoyFTWOct 24, 20179 votes

It's not trolling. You just hate reading comments which disagrees with you.

If you want to talk to Riot personally, submit a ticket to Riot Support.

ChermorgOct 24, 20176 votes

He's not trolling, and you need to not attack people who are providing legitimate counters to your arguments. If you have questions about this, talk to us in the moderation discord or on Discuss The Boards.

That being said, he's right. They tried this before and it was a resounding failure that led to over 90% of the accounts being rebanned within a couple weeks. Why would Riot let you ruin more games?

YerroFeverOct 24, 20177 votes

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So recently I got banned for 1. Inting games and 2. Being toxic in chat, and got a perma just 2 days ago for griefing.... honestly I feel like there should be some way of getting my $500 dollar account back... if Riot truly believes in reforming, why not implement a system of let’s say, get an account to honor 5 in x amount of time to get my account back? Honesty riot is full of shit about their whole reforming gig if they don’t have some system of getting perma accounts back... Riot enployees please comment, also to add, the reform project they did years ago that failed miserably shouldn’t mean that they should never try again, Einstein failed 100 experiments before the lightbulb.....

So you're saying you had prior chances to reform after being punished on a non permanent basis and you didn't reform but now that you got a permaban, you actually want to try and reform?

LukeTheSheppyOct 24, 20175 votes

.....Is no one going to mention that Einstein had nothing to do with the light bulb?

archerno1Oct 24, 20172 votes

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.....Is no one going to mention that Einstein had nothing to do with the light bulb?

No [sg-kiko]

GD3RDOct 24, 20171 votes

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.....Is no one going to mention that Einstein had nothing to do with the light bulb?

Yea I realized and changed it lol

Umbral RegentOct 24, 20175 votes

Riot does truly believe in reforming, however...

honestly I feel like there should be some way of getting my $500 dollar account back...

You aren't interested in reforming, you're interested in the money you gave to Riot and the account from which you did it.

If you are interested in reforming; create a new account, and don't make the same mistakes. Don't grief, don't intentionally feed, and don't be toxic.

You're not getting that account back - Permanent ban means Permanent ban. The only times Riot will revoke a ban is if they found they delivered it in error, which it seems yours wasn't.

Lego1asOct 24, 20172 votes

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So recently I got banned for 1. Inting games and 2. Being toxic in chat, and got a perma just 2 days ago for griefing.... honestly I feel like there should be some way of getting my $500 dollar account back... if Riot truly believes in reforming, why not implement a system of let’s say, get an account to honor 5 in x amount of time to get my account back? Honesty riot is full of shit about their whole reforming gig if they don’t have some system of getting perma accounts back... Riot enployees please comment, also to add, the reform project they did years ago that failed miserably shouldn’t mean that they should never try again, Einstein failed 100 experiments before the lightbulb.....

You understand the economics of a business poorly.

Riot does not care if you reform.

Riot does care that you abide by their terms of service aka summoner's code.

You can still be the SHITBRICK you are and abide by their rules.

Only banned people always cry and suggest implementing 'better' rules or ask about refunds.

FYI, banned people (incuding you) only account for less than 1% of the entire player base. The rest of the normal world enjoys their purchases and don't ask for refunds.

Next time, follow the rules and BE NORMAL.

Laustin SpaceOct 24, 20172 votes

They give you a chance of redemption to reform after an initial 14 day ban. If they were willing to release a "perma"ban then it wouldn't be very "permanent" would it? Also, by the way this post is worded and the way you seem to respond to comments it is VERY clear you have not reformed nor do you intend to.

GD3RDOct 24, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Laustin Space,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uT6M9Ryr,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-24T05:36:50.949+0000)

They give you a chance of redemption to reform after an initial 14 day ban. If they were willing to release a "perma"ban then it wouldn't be very "permanent" would it? Also, by the way this post is worded and the way you seem to respond to comments it is VERY clear you have not reformed nor do you intend to.

If they were willing to release a permaban it wouldn’t be very permanent? What???

Magical PlayerOct 24, 20173 votes

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If they were willing to release a permaban it wouldn’t be very permanent? What???

The threat of the permaban is only as valid as the fact that it is PERMANENT if it wasn't then there'd be no need to have it as a the final straw in the 4 punishment tier system.

So adding the "redemption program" adds a 5th step to the 4 step process does anything change? Warning's were already given Chat restrictions, temp bans, people didn't change, thus gettnig perma'd

What does you're suggested process do to the current system aside from adding another step?

Laustin SpaceOct 25, 20171 votes

As Magical Player mentioned the threat of a "permanent" ban is it being PERMANENT. Which is the point I had explained. Why would they call it a permanent ban if wasn't literally permanent??? [slayer-jinx-wink]

Nevir07Oct 24, 20172 votes

Multiple punishments are used to see if a player is able to reform before getting permabanned. You failed to show that you can reform, so why would you think Riot owes you an opportunity to redeem yourself? Just because you gave them money doesn't mean that they owe you anything in return.

General Esdeath Oct 24, 20172 votes

You had 3 chances and you threw them all. I think that says it all.

BlutseucheOct 24, 20172 votes

So recently I got banned for 1. Inting games and 2. Being toxic in chat, and got a perma just 2 days ago for griefing

Case closed. Bye.

Noone wants an intentional feeder in their games and still you have the audacity to doubt the rightfulness of the punishment system. Disgusting.

Kei143Oct 24, 20172 votes

Lol .. Einstein and light bulb..

100 times of failure to attempt to create a light bulb VS 3 times of no attempts to reform. Doesn't look like a proper comparison.

GD3RDOct 24, 20171 votes

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So recently I got banned for 1. Inting games and 2. Being toxic in chat, and got a perma just 2 days ago for griefing.... honestly I feel like there should be some way of getting my $500 dollar account back... if Riot truly believes in reforming, why not implement a system of let’s say, get an account to honor 5 in x amount of time to get my account back? Honesty riot is full of shit about their whole reforming gig if they don’t have some system of getting perma accounts back... Riot enployees please comment, also to add, the reform project they did years ago that failed miserably shouldn’t mean that they should never try again, Einstein failed math

SarutobiOct 24, 20171 votes

To be fair I dont think they could do something like this again, unless they kept it in secret. Because now that people know about it the next time they do something like this would just make people cheat the system and only be nice during that duration. Once its done and they get their accounts back they would more than likely get toxic, or troll again and thus repeating the cycle.

deathgod5Oct 24, 20171 votes

I think they don't do this because they don't see the reform system like the invention of the lightbulb and more the route alchemist took to discover gold. They don't feel that this will ever have a satisfying result.