Assassins that continue to be a problem post update.

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Leblanc Rengar Katarina Fizz Akali <- My boo but I will be honest with myself

All these champions have some major flaws in their design, but different types of flaws.

Leblanc

She is the definition of blow your enemy up without them even having a chance to react. Her Etheral Chains has one of the longest tether ranges in the game, making it impossible to escape unless you are Kassadin and have flash. Her burst damage is still way too high and she doesn't even need a full combo to kill someone, and her mobility is still too great for achieving all of the other stuff I just mentioned. Kind of like pre rework Kassadin

Rengar

He has a similar problem to Leblanc, is that he will hop out of the shadow and just obliterate your ADC before he or your allies knew what the hell just happened. All of his damage is focusing in to one ability, which makes him particularly easy to master, and on top of his damage being mostly focused into one ability, it's pretty easily chain able, meaning you can easily get 3 Q's off in a short window if you know what you're doing.

Katarina

Sure she has a bit of mechanic now, but she is still just as snowbally and bursty (if not more) than she was before. Moving her W damage and effect to passive was the wrong way to go, because now you've just gone and made her even MORE spammy. Her Passive ratio is 287 base with a 1:1 AP ratio late game and also has a 125% Bonus AD ratio, meaning that if a Kat is smart she will hop on you from her Q's dagger, immediately throw down her W and ult in rapid succession, and you can say bye bye to your health bar. Let's not forget they ALSO went and increased her ultimate damage. And let's not forget that each dagger she picks up literally resets the cooldown on her Shunpo, addind to how much she can spam abilities.

Fizz

He's the type of champion that you see and are like, Oh shit I'm dead. This should NEVER be the case in league. This guy literally throws out his R, and almost always hits it because of that stupid auto attach mechanic on his ultimate, that by the way, another champion they increased the damage on his ultimate, will proceed to murder you in two ways. Either you take a max range ultimate to the face and he proceeds to Q you afterwards for the kill, or you walk closer, take smaller ult damage, but then He Q's you then double auto's you with the reset on his W. He is the definition of infuriating to play against.

Akali

Akali is the definition of feast or famine. She either snowballs really hard, or falls behind very hard and is hard to come back on, unless your team is bad enough to let her come back. She lacks a clear identity in her kit. They want to preserve her sustain, they want to preserve her invisibility, and they want to preserve her dashes, which makes her EXTREMELY hard to do anything with balance wise. IMO her Shadow Dance has always been her iconic ability in my eyes. Never her sustain or invisibility. Well maybe a bit of her sustain since she has no real defensive stats. She just needs a rework at this point that revolves around her Shadow Dance. Not 3 abilities and completely make or break her.

Thank you, that is all, let me know what you think, and please don't down-vote without a reason.

11 Comments

Penns4 votes

He's the type of champion that you see and are like, Oh shit I'd be dead if I had no Zhonyas or no mr at all, no teammates with Locket or other peel items around, no self-shields/peel and no mobility to dodge his ult/E/Q.

ftfy kappa

Kaisa is Hot2 votes

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ftfy kappa

Well sorry but at level 6-9 you typically don't have zhonyas or locket, and by the point he will probably get fed, and it won't matter cause he will just smash someone without zhonyas later on.

Penns2 votes

At level 6-9 he also doesnt oneshot you tho unless you got 0 mr or dont have self peel like Ori with her shield.

Kaisa is Hot1 votes

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At level 6-9 he also doesnt oneshot you tho unless you got 0 mr or dont have self peel like Ori with her shield.

Well sure he might not ONE SHOT you but he still gives you very little room to play around his ult if he lands it. You will most likely have to flash which then kind of makes you a sitting duck for the next 5 minutes. And since his ult will attach to you even if you're near it, it's kind of like a luck gamble on weather or not he will land it. He will not one shot you, but he will most likely kill you some way.

Ahristocats1 votes

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Well sure he might not ONE SHOT you but he still gives you very little room to play around his ult if he lands it.

how? for reminder rengar win rate is 45% and 49% above plat, you see him before he jumps since the jump range is lower than the vision range, and rengar has 1 stack of passive when he jumps which means you can cc him immediatly without him using W

Penns1 votes

Well he relies hard on his ult so hitting it from max range on a squishy target that is alone HAS to be a kill, if you could play around that he would sadly be like complete garbage.

Nameless Voice3 votes

Kat jumps in and tries to kill you. Your ADC doesn't even bother to dodge and just hits her with 2-3 autos and she's dead. Kat doesn't even get a chance to jump in because your mage explodes her from outside of her jump range.

Explain how Kat is a problem. The assassin update made her fair, but other classes aren't fair. ADCs outburst her and out-DPS her late-game. Mages can do more damage than her, in a shorter window, from range.

Apart from a few outliers, assassins as a class are very weak right now.

Kaisa is Hot1 votes

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Kat jumps in and tries to kill you. Your ADC doesn't even bother to dodge and just hits her with 2-3 autos and she's dead. Kat doesn't even get a chance to jump in because your mage explodes her from outside of her jump range.

Explain how Kat is a problem. The assassin update made her fair, but other classes aren't fair. ADCs outburst her and out-DPS her late-game. Mages can do more damage than her, in a shorter window, from range.

Apart from a few outliers, assassins as a class are very weak right now.

Hmm. I don't know man, I haven't had a problem with ADC's standing in my ult and not dying. ROFL. Kat's ult does more damage lategame than any other kit rotation in the game single handedly. No way an ADC is standing in it and not dying.

Kaisa is Hot1 votes

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Kat jumps in and tries to kill you. Your ADC doesn't even bother to dodge and just hits her with 2-3 autos and she's dead. Kat doesn't even get a chance to jump in because your mage explodes her from outside of her jump range.

Explain how Kat is a problem. The assassin update made her fair, but other classes aren't fair. ADCs outburst her and out-DPS her late-game. Mages can do more damage than her, in a shorter window, from range.

Apart from a few outliers, assassins as a class are very weak right now.

And seeing as she is the 4th most banned champion in the game RN, that doesn't really back up your argument either. She is weak if you are a total noob and have no clue what you're doing, otherwise she's really strong.

Ahristocats1 votes

it doesn't matter what's her ban rate, kat is fucking terrible right now and is only good when played as an AD bruiser splitpushing, the balance team fucked up with many assassins making them unable to go full glass canon

Remove Jungle1 votes

LEL this assassin rework nerfed the class really hard. and yet people stil find a way to complain about the weak assassins atm.

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