AD vs. AP vs. Bonus AD Ratios

Raid Boss Morde··1 votes·943 views

After looking at some champions like Lee Sin, and Jarvan, I noticed that they have some very high base damage AND ratios on their skills. Jarvan has a 120% B. AD ratio and a 150% B. AD. Lee Sin has a 200% B. AD. Seeing these crazy high ratios got me thinking about how different is it from AP ratios. Is 120, 150, and 200% ratios normal for BONUS AD? Most mages have ratios that are 40 ~ 70% AP. Does that mean 120% B. AD = 70% AP?

Bonus AD and AP does not scale with level, and you start with 0 of both (excluding runes, masteries, and passives). You buy these stats as the game goes on, increasing your skills' damage as well. They are very similar, and then there's AD ratios. AD ratios seem much greater than both of these. You start with around 50-60 AD, and any AD you build will add on to this. Your AD also scales with level, making AD ratios much greater than the others. As I see it, it's:

AD > AP = B. AD

I just find it pretty crazy when I see a ratio over 100% on champions (Lee Sin, Jarvan, Vi, Wukong). Normally, the champions I play have about 40% - 60% AP ratios. Does this have to do with the prices of AD and AP items? If anyone can explain this, that would be nice.

7 Comments

Dreadlocks1 votes

Have you every seen someone with 800 AD? no.. but im sure uve seen AP that high. So i'll let you do the math..

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

I have, but I have also seen a Zed with 700 AD. Either way, you're going to be very squishy, so it doesn't really matter.

Dreadlocks1 votes

you've seen a zed with 700 AD lol not even possible man.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Zed - Base AD at 18: 113 Runes: 15AD Masteries at 18: 14AD

Zed W Passive: +25% Bonus AD Warlord: +5% Bonus AD

Build: Blade of the Ruined King (25 AD) Mercurial Scimitar (80) Last Whisper (40) Bloodthirster (80) Infinity Edge (80) Boots

113 + (15 + 14 + 25+80+40+80+80) * 1.3 = 547.2

If you add Elixir of Wrath and Dragon Buff

(113 + (15 + 14 + 25+80+40+80+80 + 25) * 1.3) * 1.06 =614.5

If you replace Boots and Blade of the Ruined King with BF Sword items (which have 80AD).

(113 + (15 + 14 +80+80+40+80+80+80+25) * 1.3) * 1.06 = 800

So it's possible (unless I screwed up the math while sleep deprived), though unlikely to occur in a normal game.

It could probably go a bit higher if you used Maw of Malmortius (when low on health), Sword of the Occult (full stacked), Taric's ultimate, Janna Shield, etc.

Edit: Huh, you can escape [ \ ] asterisks to prevent them from italicizing or bolding words. Neat.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Screen shot plz rotfl.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

since ad works with autos riot just wont allow you to get too big amounts

ap ratios are lower because you get more ap and it influenmces only your skills

bonus ad ratios are realy high because you have overall less ad

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