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Kaisa is Hot·Jul 30, 2016·2 votes·339 views

So I've been doing utterly trash in the past week. I've tanked from Silver 1 82 LP to Silver 4. Idk what I'm doing wrong, It's like I'm on a permanent tilt and have no clue if they enemy team just always has the better players or if I am the problem and not performing like I should. Todays games haven't been the best. I won like 3-4 I think, but most were just cause we dominated the enemy team. It always seems like games end in a COMPLETE stomp anymore. No more close or skilled games. Just stomps.

Although I have noticed a pattern that has gotten progressively worse, people die in their lane, and they just keep pushing and trying to kill the enemy laner like they even stand a chance. Even when they know the jungler is camping them. Or half the time it just feels like the game matchup is so unfair cause the enemy team has a trio or quad queue and is just way too coordinated compared to ours. I've never had problems getting out of Silver, but this year takes the cake. I ended last year at Gold 2 75 LP and I just can't even get close to that now. HELP!

3 Comments

Inquisitor KaneJul 30, 20161 votes

Welcome to the dynamicQ garbage system. Where smurfs runs free and it's all but a roulette if you get the better smurf on your team or not.

But besides that ,there are some things you may do to raise your chances of winning. Please, don't take this as a negative, it's jsut my way of expressing myself that some ppl may find offensive. But I mean it in a good way:

RUNES Dude, you want to hit gold and yet you are using Tier 2 runes. Come on now. Tier 3 runes, and the right ones, are the basic rule to win the early game. Go to lolking.net and check some fresh guides for the champs you play in rankeds, and fix your runes.
MASTERIES You do like your Deathfire Touch, but maybe it is not the best keystone if you want to win. Also your Akali/Katarina page - you are using Expose weakness on assassins. Mate, that is just wrong. Those 2 grills are assassins, they want to do maximum damage, and doesn't give a fck about their team dmg. Therefore Double-edged sword is the right choice. Once again - you can fix your masteries while reading thsoe cool lolking guides ;-)
LAST HITING Your average CS score per 10 minutes is 50CS. No offence, but I support main, who plays ADC like once a year, can do 60. So every day, especially before ranked, go to a custom game with no bots, pick up the champ you wanna play in ranked, pick the right runes and masteries, get the doran item and go mid lane and famr for 10 minutes. But only last hit the minions - that means only hit them if you think your AA will kill them. When I was doing it, I improved by 10CS per 10 minutes within a week. And I didn't even try, really. So this excercise works and it is vital for you. Because no CS > no gold > no items > no dmg > defeat screen.
CHAMPIONS In your last 10 games (6 of them rankeds) you played 10 different champions. This is a common low elo mistake. Dude, play what you like and can play. Pick 4 champions (2 for each role you que as) and play ONLY THOSE. Now you have about 3 months till the season is over, you have no time clowning around trying new champs in rankeds. Pick those 4 and play only them, master them, learn their strengths and weaknesses and matchups. You will climb much faster. ... Also stay away from Yasuo, Azir and such hard to play champions. They need lots of games to learn them and you don't have the time for that. Stick to the easier ones that you already know. Those are the ones that will carry you to gold. Learn Yasuo and Azir in normals, when you it the gold.
BUILDS Are you sure that Duskblade is so necessary? It is very expensive for what it does. I am no ADC main so don't take my word for it but I think Jhin would profit more from IE than Duskblade. Once again - check those LoLking guides for correct itemization. To make sure you are not losing power spikes and dmg output.
DEATHS You don't die a lot in ranked games, that is commendable. Keep on doing that. Just make sure you don't run away from fight that you can turn, letting your team mates die for nothing. ;-)
TILT You said it yourself, you are tilting. That is the worst time to play League, especially rankeds. Because everything pis*es you off, even the slightest mistake and then you can't focus and play 100%. Have a break. Play normals or TT for a change. Have fun. Play other games, do some sport, or just go outside. Give yourself a week rest, then come back, play some warm-up normals and then hit the rankeds again. Even though rnakeds are serious, you should have a little bit of fun playing them, enjoy the challenge and have a positive attitude of "I can win this sht". Maybe try queing with someone else, who will be on voice comm with you and can calm you down. To be the voice of reason. That may help. Also stop playing after you lose 2nd ranked game. Stick to normals or other games after that. No poin tilting yourself more and potentionally lose more LP because of your tilt.
TEAM FEEDING You can do jack sht about your bad team mates. But you can try to stop the bleeding. I guess you play ADC, mid and jungle in rankeds. (First of all ditch one of those roles, have only 2 roles and 2 champions for each as I said before). As an ADC you can't do much otehr than don't die, farm better than your oponent, poke them out of the lane or kill them. Try to get dragons and kill the tower ASAP so you can move mid and force mid game and team fights before your solo laners feeds even more. As a jungler, try to releave the pressure by a fake gank (if you know you can't kill them just show yourself to make enemy think you are camping the lane and let your laner to farm safely for a while) or even better - snowball your other lanes to make up for that underleveled useless lane. As a mid laner - shove and roam, snowball, and so on.

These are the basics, hope it helps :-)

GL&HF Draven

Kaisa is HotJul 30, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inquisitor Kane,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K8tegAwA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-30T05:42:43.859+0000)

Welcome to the dynamicQ garbage system. Where smurfs runs free and it's all but a roulette if you get the better smurf on your team or not.

But besides that ,there are some things you may do to raise your chances of winning. Please, don't take this as a negative, it's jsut my way of expressing myself that some ppl may find offensive. But I mean it in a good way:

RUNES Dude, you want to hit gold and yet you are using Tier 2 runes. Come on now. Tier 3 runes, and the right ones, are the basic rule to win the early game. Go to lolking.net and check some fresh guides for the champs you play in rankeds, and fix your runes.

MASTERIES You do like your Deathfire Touch, but maybe it is not the best keystone if you want to win. Also your Akali/Katarina page - you are using Expose weakness on assassins. Mate, that is just wrong. Those 2 grills are assassins, they want to do maximum damage, and doesn't give a fck about their team dmg. Therefore Double-edged sword is the right choice. Once again - you can fix your masteries while reading thsoe cool lolking guides ;-)

LAST HITING Your average CS score per 10 minutes is 50CS. No offence, but I support main, who plays ADC like once a year, can do 60. So every day, especially before ranked, go to a custom game with no bots, pick up the champ you wanna play in ranked, pick the right runes and masteries, get the doran item and go mid lane and famr for 10 minutes. But only last hit the minions - that means only hit them if you think your AA will kill them. When I was doing it, I improved by 10CS per 10 minutes within a week. And I didn't even try, really. So this excercise works and it is vital for you. Because no CS > no gold > no items > no dmg > defeat screen.

CHAMPIONS In your last 10 games (6 of them rankeds) you played 10 different champions. This is a common low elo mistake. Dude, play what you like and can play. Pick 4 champions (2 for each role you que as) and play ONLY THOSE. Now you have about 3 months till the season is over, you have no time clowning around trying new champs in rankeds. Pick those 4 and play only them, master them, learn their strengths and weaknesses and matchups. You will climb much faster. ... Also stay away from Yasuo, Azir and such hard to play champions. They need lots of games to learn them and you don't have the time for that. Stick to the easier ones that you already know. Those are the ones that will carry you to gold. Learn Yasuo and Azir in normals, when you it the gold.

BUILDS Are you sure that Duskblade is so necessary? It is very expensive for what it does. I am no ADC main so don't take my word for it but I think Jhin would profit more from IE than Duskblade. Once again - check those LoLking guides for correct itemization. To make sure you are not losing power spikes and dmg output.

DEATHS You don't die a lot in ranked games, that is commendable. Keep on doing that. Just make sure you don't run away from fight that you can turn, letting your team mates die for nothing. ;-)

TILT You said it yourself, you are tilting. That is the worst time to play League, especially rankeds. Because everything pis*es you off, even the slightest mistake and then you can't focus and play 100%. Have a break. Play normals or TT for a change. Have fun. Play other games, do some sport, or just go outside. Give yourself a week rest, then come back, play some warm-up normals and then hit the rankeds again. Even though rnakeds are serious, you should have a little bit of fun playing them, enjoy the challenge and have a positive attitude of "I can win this sht". Maybe try queing with someone else, who will be on voice comm with you and can calm you down. To be the voice of reason. That may help. Also stop playing after you lose 2nd ranked game. Stick to normals or other games after that. No poin tilting yourself more and potentionally lose more LP because of your tilt.

TEAM FEEDING You can do jack sht about your bad team mates. But you can try to stop the bleeding. I guess you play ADC, mid and jungle in rankeds. (First of all ditch one of those roles, have only 2 roles and 2 champions for each as I said before). As an ADC you can't do much otehr than don't die, farm better than your oponent, poke them out of the lane or kill them. Try to get dragons and kill the tower ASAP so you can move mid and force mid game and team fights before your solo laners feeds even more. As a jungler, try to releave the pressure by a fake gank (if you know you can't kill them just show yourself to make enemy think you are camping the lane and let your laner to farm safely for a while) or even better - snowball your other lanes to make up for that underleveled useless lane. As a mid laner - shove and roam, snowball, and so on.

These are the basics, hope it helps :-)

GL&HF

Thanks a lot man, I will take all these things in to consideration, the 3 role gimmick is when I can't seem to win with my 2 main roles sometimes I try to break it with another, my two main roles are ADC and Mid in that order respectively, the part about going ADC I find is you don't have much potential to make plays or stop another lane from feeding, If I'm mid and I'm doing ok, I can try to roam bot and help pick up some kills and snowball their lane, ADC is a little trickier as you don't hit 6 as fast and it's usually hard for an ADC to roam effectively. This is why many times I will retreat to playing mid, like if you look at my last Kassadin game, he was a comfort pick and the Annie counter made it even more comfortable so I was able to pretty much snowball off of that. But if my bot lane messed up in that game I could probably deal with Ezreal easily, but now let's flip the situation, we have say a Veigar mid vs LeBlanc, or Zed, Veigar doesn't do too hot and gives up first blood at 4 mins and gives her another 3 kills in the laning phase, Well even if I did good bot and got say 3 kills, that LB is still pretty much going to be able to delete the fact that I'm ahead. And then if top feeds on top of that, well let's just say I;ve had stuff like that happen way too many times where mid and top were like 0/14 combined at the 15 min mark, you can pretty much bet you're probably not gonna have much of an impact.

But I will try my best to take up the suggestions you made and work around and on them. Kalista

Inquisitor KaneJul 30, 20161 votes

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the 3 role gimmick is when I can't seem to win with my 2 main roles sometimes I try to break it with another

Actually I would strongly advise against that. Say your ADC is your strongest role, mid second strongest. If you can't win with your most played roles and champions, what chance of winning you have with your 3rd role and 5th or 6th most played champ? Sure, sometimes matchmaking is a gamble, but don't rely on RNG and luck.. fluke wins with cheese strats and such. Just stick to your guns and to your strong picks.

the part about going ADC I find is you don't have much potential to make plays or stop another lane from feeding

Exactly. But that is not your priority. As an ADC you have to get items ASAP so you can deal dmg. That is why farming is most important part of your early game. If you farm better and come back to lane with BF Sword while your oponent has only a pick axe, guess who's gonna win the next skirmish. If other lanes are feeding, you have to try to win your lane, get as much CS as possible, sprinkle few lucky kills on top of that and push the tower. If you feed yourself, you can counter-weight enemy fed top laner.

Also by pushing the tower you can go mid or top and force the mid game, or force that fed enemy top lane to leave the lane and deal with fed yourself in mid, relieving some pressure of your feeding top laner who can farm up in peace for a time being.

If I'm mid and I'm doing ok, I can try to roam bot and help pick up some kills and snowball their lane, ADC is a little trickier as you don't hit 6 as fast and it's usually hard for an ADC to roam effectively.

ADC does not roam. ADC farms, if you have good support or jungler you get some kills or assists and early dragons. Then push tower and continue someplace else. Or if enemy bot is really dumb you farm them instead of minions :D

ADC is good only after 3 items and mid-late game, that is why EU lane swap and farm fest for first 20 mins happens. To get those few items and lvls for their ADC to make them actually valuable part of their team.

As a mid laner, even letting yourself being camped by enemy jungler (but not dying to it) is a small win. If he is camping you and you know you can outplay both of them and not die, then he is wasting his time and not pressuring other lanes (also losing gold and leeching his mid laner's exp putting them both behind). Or you delete the enemy and shove the lane, making your oponent useless as much as useless will be your feeding top jungle or bot. You have to even the score. Roaming sure helps so keep doing that.

There are many ways how to snowball or do something about the game from mid lane, I guess try YouTube and some vids from Redmercy (the only YT mid laner I know about) that should be helpful. Also Phylol does ADC and overall tips videos so check him out as well, you may get some cool tips for ADC and how to carry with them.

Last but not least - you can't win them all. Just now I lost 2 rankeds in a row because of briandead ADCs and toxic team mates who were typing litanies of poison into the chat instead of playing. Sht happens. I just play normals for the rest of the day (well... maybe I try one more ranked in the evening just to get rid of those LPs :D) and carry on. I still have those 3 months to hit gold 5 anyways :P

PS: Every loss take as a practice match. Register on replay.gg or install Plays.tv and watch your game. What did you do wrong? What could you do better? What did you miss that costed you the game? Look up each one of your deaths and find out why you were so bad that you died (I strongly believe each death is my own fault so I have a lot to learn from it). Work on that and you can climb. ;-)

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