Who is the Worst Offender?

FarRockBF·Dec 16, 2014·6 votes·1,271 views

There is a new Zed, Lee Sin, and Fizz thread every day. They all have insane mobility and safety plus they are great duelists. Yeah, they are all broken but let's vote! Who do YOU think is the most broken of the three?

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JustMyBassCannonDec 16, 20145 votes

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There is a new Zed, Lee Sin, and Fizz thread every day. They all have insane mobility and safety plus they are great duelists. Yeah, they are all broken but let's vote! Who do YOU think is the most broken of the three?

None of them; then again, I'm one of the people rolling my eyes at these Lee Sin/Zed/Fizz threads. Majority of the time, the people posting them haven't even played as said champs, yet they speak as if they have any basis for their claim stronger than, "I had to play against this champ in a game, and my normal strategy didn't work against them so I lost."

Then, they looked up the champ's kit on the wiki or whatever, and they found out that one of the champ's signature abilities was the reason they lost, because it allowed them to do something that they were not used to handling. Instead of figuring out how to play around it, they get upset that a champion has something that beats their same ol', "reliable" strategy.

FarRockBFDec 16, 20143 votes

It's interesting that none of these three have particularly high win rates.

NudzDec 16, 20142 votes

That's because the times they do win, everyone whines about how broken they are

0115D8CFDec 16, 20141 votes

it's probably because of threads like the ones you're talking about getting people who have no idea what they're doing to play them, and failing miserably. I am kind of speaking from experience. I decided to pick up fizz, partly because he's so strong, and partly because he just looks really really fun, but every time I've tried playing him, I do terrible. One day I'll take the time to learn him, but for now I'll stick to other champions >__>

FarRockBFDec 16, 20142 votes

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One day I'll take the time to learn him, but for now I'll stick to other champions >__>

Exactly! Once you learn how to play him he will very soon conveniently become your main..

Kuroi86Dec 16, 20143 votes

None, two are strong and reliable picks, one is a bit toxic, that's it.

MPendragonDec 16, 20142 votes

There is no conspiracy as to why Fizz is regarded as the most broken. He has an ability which provides him with invulnerability - which can be spammed much more frequently than Zed's ult, which grants him invulnerability.

Stars ShaperDec 16, 20141 votes

plus that ability is both a gap closer and deals damage.

KidKaiserDec 16, 20141 votes

and let's not forget. he can also hop over walls with it too.

Chaotic ReksDec 16, 20141 votes

and he laughs in your face with it

Stars ShaperDec 16, 20141 votes

Dat fuking laugh

FarRockBFDec 16, 20141 votes

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There is no conspiracy as to why Fizz is regarded as the most broken. He has an ability which provides him with invulnerability - which can be spammed much more frequently than Zed's ult, which grants him invulnerability.

True, but what makes Zed so dangerous is that he is a RANGED melee assassin. He can farm under YOUR tower even attack you with receiving no tower dmg. It's not all the invulnerability part. I personally have a much harder time in lane vs Zed than Fizz. Not to mention Fizz ult is a skill shot which misses more often than not.

I believe Lee is getting the fewest votes because he is jungle so people don't have horror memories of being pub-stomped by him over and over in lane.

KidKaiserDec 16, 20141 votes

"out of the 3 being fed. who would you fear most?!" that's what i translated from "who is the most broken?"

trust me. Lee Sin is equally annoying. cuz ward hopping is too hard. miss Q. it's k try until you hit. then go in and R. W out. win game.

with that said. Zed floats on a similar boat. WQEQWEWQEQWE. hey look. someone's low. R WWREQQWEQWE.... R.

Fizz on the other hand.. >.> WQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQW. E. QWQWQWQW. E. hourglass. E. QWQWQWQWQWQWWQWQW. oh. i still have my shark. R.

MPendragonDec 16, 20141 votes

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True, but what makes Zed so dangerous is that he is a RANGED melee assassin. He can farm under YOUR tower even attack you with receiving no tower dmg. It's not all the invulnerability part. I personally have a much harder time in lane vs Zed than Fizz. Not to mention Fizz ult is a skill shot which misses more often than not.

I believe Lee is getting the fewest votes because he is jungle so people don't have horror memories of being pub-stomped by him over and over in lane.

Well Zed can be punished through harass from a jungler during the laning phase, which should definitely help your mid laner to be able to re-balance the shattered-ness of the situation. Fizz on the other hand throws up two middle fingers and says "I'll take you both on, and escape with 2% health."

Drunk RummateDec 16, 20142 votes

trick question

the answer is Akali

Leti the YetiDec 16, 20141 votes

well fizz and zed does have the highest ban rates only to be topped by warwick who's rate should be dropping soon

crippler38Dec 16, 20141 votes

I voted before I finished reading the question lol, I voted fizz because the devil fish is annoying and I thought this was a most annoying thread

Leblancs BoobDec 16, 20141 votes

Zed by far. An assassin that makes Orianna look like a risky pick. Impossible to shut down and way too overly reliable

Epilogue of LifeDec 17, 20141 votes

Yeah, except you remove like 1/3~1/2 of his dmg with QSS/Zhonyas, and how he runs out of energy after one combo in teamfights...just no.

Leblancs BoobDec 17, 20141 votes

Yeah except no ADC ever will buy a QSS just for Zed unless theyre just stupid. And your point really isn't even a counterargument. Even if you perfectly bait Zed onto you with your teammates right behind you, Zed will almost always be able to get away. He shouldn't be able to pick terrible engages and say "oh well" if it doesn't go his way and just press r to get out.

Epilogue of LifeDec 17, 20141 votes

But thats extremely effective, and lategame, if you are doing OK, you can often turn the fight on Zed by removing his ult and using heal, combined with the heavy mobility of many ADC(ez vayne kali). If you perfectly bait Zed onto you, stun him, and get rid of him in literally one second. Know that Zed is no tankier than ADCs. JUST. CC. HIM. If he gets to reactivate R, it means your team either lacks in the CC area, or you didn't chain them well enough.

Leblancs BoobDec 17, 20141 votes

But you're assuming that the Zed player is dumb enough to jump onto a Caitlyn with a Sej right next to her holding onto her ult. Assassins will always have to wait for the opportune moment before jumping their target. If Zed is baited he will most likely get out anyway well because... Zed is Zed. But if he actually knows what he's doing he will always either get a kill and get away, or burn everything from the enemy carries and still get away

Epilogue of LifeDec 17, 20141 votes

Sometimes, you have no choice but to jump into an unfavorable situation, because hesitate a moment more and your team's gone. And Zed is definitely highly dependent on his CDs than an ADC--if they trade CD's, the ADC can still auto with relative safety until Zed's shadow comes up again.

Epilogue of LifeDec 17, 20141 votes

Fizz is the only BROKEN one, Lee and Zed actually has painful limitations on their casting with the energy bar as game progresses, while Fizz can just E his way out of literally everything...