About Ziggs and Nidalee

Mister Modesty·Oct 19, 2016·1 votes·540 views

Let's start off with Ziggs. I don't know wtf you guys did to break him, but you broke him. Tell me how I just played an ARAM where the enemy Ziggs reached level 6 before anybody else even levelled up. I reported him- he probably wasn't cheating, Riot probably just fucked with him in a way they didn't intend. Besides- who cares if enemies dash through his mines? That's the fucking point of a dash. Revert Ziggs back to 6.20

And about Nidalee- Riot are you oblivious?? What makes Nidalee a problem isn't her pussy cat lion form. That lion is a little bitch and I'll face fuck it on the regular. The problem is her spear throw. With low cooldown and low mana cost, she can sit back and chuck a spear with range far too great and damage way too superior. Increase the cost and cdr, or lower the range and damage.

8 Comments

dunder killOct 19, 20162 votes

Reminder that this is what the game would be like if it was balanced around Bronze

HyperiönOct 19, 20161 votes

Nidalee, isnt a problem with spears, l2dodge.

Cougar form was a problem, and it allows her to dominate just about any early game jungler.

Ziggs? lel. He most likely didnt die, and since he just sits back and clears the waves, thats why he beat you to 6.

Mister ModestyOct 19, 20161 votes

Ziggs reached 6 by the 2nd minion wave. NOBODY levelled up yet.

And cougar form is weak. l2Rammus.

The spear is a problem because she can just build AP and Ludens. She doesn't need to hit you, she just needs to hit something. And she can just chuck another one a few seconds later. The mana cost is way too low, she can regen the mana back before next cast.. that's broken.

EddyPareraOct 19, 20161 votes

Dude, this is one of cases that high elo players usually say: Low elo players are bad because they can't counterplay and think that something is broken when it's not.

I'm bronze, just like you and I don't think she's broken. You just need to dodge the spear and counterplay her. Even if she builds ludens and you dodge the spear but it does damage to you, it won't be a big of a deal compared to what you could or should do to her.

Mister ModestyOct 20, 20161 votes

I only play ARAM. Nid builds Luden's and all she needs to do is use her spear. She's going to hit something. You can't group in ARAM because champs like Brand and Fidd. And spreading out means all she needs to do is lob it blindly down lane.

I've dodge that shit too many times and still get damaged because Luden's proc. And she throws another one within 5 seconds. The damage on it is OP. When I play Kassadin, and I have Merc Treads, and she manages to snipe away 50% of my Health- there's a problem. Kassadin has so much mag res it's stupid- a basic ability shouldn't hurt him like that.

And I have a similar problem with Pantheon. The champions abuse their spears. Patheon's is terrible because it's click on target- if my teleport goes off before his spear lands it will literally do a 90 degree turn in mid air and travel across the map to hit me. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Nid's spear is just too low cost and too low cd for its range and damage. Her spear literally outranges most ADC abilities, and deals stupid damage. Which would be fine if it actually depleted her mana and she couldn't spam cast it.

NahuiOct 19, 20161 votes

She cannot regen the mana back that quickly.

A single champion isn't a case for counter. Her jungle form cleared camps too quickly and did way too much damage even without hunted.

Ziggs probably was in range for every bit of creep experience. I'm sure the rest of the game at least exited the range of 1 minion dying. Otherwise you misperceived what you saw, because what you saw is impossible short of a gameplay bug which I doubt exists.

You don't dash over mines, you dash through them. Means they hurt. And plus, the way dashes are coded, all they do is move your character linearly in one direction. There's no other vectors involved. Just x,y

EedatOct 19, 20161 votes

Nidalee's spears are super easy to dodge when you know they're coming lol

HyperiönOct 19, 20161 votes

Now i just know that you are a troll.

No she doesn't chunk with ludens proc. No she doesn't regen mana that fast. Ziggs, no way in hell he got level 6 after just two minion waves, yet another over exaggeration.