Rito pls buff the ban system

Magnesium14··51 votes·14,029 views

Rito games needs to give us more bans, with so many champions that are stupid, we need at least 2 bans each, although more like 3 would be better. Either that or Rito actually balances their game. I'd say a good 20% of the champions in this game have become must pick or must ban so we need more bans.

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Sylias Ravenmore18 votes

I made a similar suggestion not too long ago and got downvoted to hell and thrashtalked.. I had also mentioned Rotating Bans.

VelvetCrotch2 votes

I feel you bro many threads I made over the years gut downvoted or ignored and flamed but months or years later others get upvoted and supported about the same topics.

You need to be at the right time at the right place with the right wording. Just like in real life finding your love.

Magnesium141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sylias Ravenmore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jx2c6K2g,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-09T15:45:08.093+0000)

I made a similar suggestion not too long ago and got downvoted to hell and thrashtalked.. I had also mentioned Rotating Bans.

The few rito supporters.

Nun Milk6 votes

How about an auto ban... You log champions according to the most hated order in your profile or whatever, and it bans them in game automatically. If bans clash it selects your next prioritized champion. But of course it would take riot ten years. The client can barely function at the moment.

Summoner SpeII1 votes

what if your team wants to play a champ and they dont react early enough to prepick

Nun Milk1 votes

Bans happen after champ selection anyway, it can still skip selected champs according to order

CatnipTerminator5 votes

I feel like there should be 1 extra ban per team that can be voted for, you know, something healthier than being able to ban all your counters :v

Kalienor5 votes

You could have 60 bans, it would be the same: you'd end up with 85 champions left, with a top priority pick, picks of lower interest, etc.

Drafting is a valuable skill, but it's not THAT important before High Plat/Diamond. Below that spot, mastering fundamental skills will have a lot more weight than specific match ups.

TheMojoKiller3 votes

I love you. It's funny how there is 140+ champions but you see the same shit almost every game, as well as the same stuff banned :). At least there would be more variety in the game instead of seeing pyke and/or yasuo every game.

R0XTAR3 votes

If anything, they should do an extra ban phase if the same champs get banned on both sides. Like

5 ban VS 5 ban

3 second delay -- OH SAME BANNED CHAMP

10 second ban phase ONLY for the person that banned the same champ. Since there are two people in that category, they could alternate like one game it's red side then blue side if it happens again.

Also #ARAMBansPlz

lIllI1lIllIII1II3 votes

upvoted. Agreed. (and needs more ways to gain blue essence to counter act the needed champions to ban more champions)

ŚtrongMental2 votes

Same here

IIIlIIlIIIlIIIII1 votes

I hate to also be barcoded, but also agree :/

NoPaxt2 votes

I remember when the community thought 3 bans wasn't enough... Now your asking for how many? How about we learn yo play into match ups instead of whining....

Magnesium141 votes

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I remember when the community thought 3 bans wasn't enough... Now your asking for how many? How about we learn yo play into match ups instead of whining....

I'm just saying their are some match-ups that you can't just beat, as long as the opponent is okay at the game. For example you cannot Tyrandamere into Teemo, you cannot RIven into Nasus, you cannot Teemo into Mundo, You cannot use a jungler with slow clears against a Shyvanna you cannot Nami into a blitz, thresh or naut (you probably could against a pyke tho as cancer as he is). The chance of winning these matchups are extremely low, to non existant, theirs nothing you can do. This is not even including how cancer have the champions in this game are. As of right now you need to ban many champions just for being broken.

TK5761 votes

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I remember when the community thought 3 bans wasn't enough... Now your asking for how many? How about we learn yo play into match ups instead of whining....

"Whining"... Jesus that word, when used wrong, it sounds like your so high and mighty. There are many problems when it comes to who you ban, hell, I can admit that three might be much, but two is perfect. For example, if you hate cheesing champions you can ban Teemo and Twitch, or if you hate tanks, ban Vladimir and Mundo.

NoPaxt1 votes

Or actually learn how to play into champs that you don't like or watch this backfire and have your favorite champs always banned, then what will you whine about?

TK5761 votes

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Or actually learn how to play into champs that you don't like or watch this backfire and have your favorite champs always banned, then what will you whine about?

Easier said that done

SociopathFriend1 votes

...Did you just mention Vlad and Mundo as tanks?

General Esdeath 2 votes

Haven't seen a Annie AurelionSol Azir Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Galio Ivern Kalista KogMaw Maokai Olaf Quinn Shaco Skarner Taliyah Taric Trundle TwistedFate Viktor Zac in quite a while...

Was gonna add Swain but someone in my lobby just locked it in

Magnesium141 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jx2c6K2g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-09T21:04:52.292+0000)

Haven't seen a Annie AurelionSol Azir Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Galio Ivern Kalista KogMaw Maokai Olaf Quinn Shaco Skarner Taliyah Taric Trundle TwistedFate Viktor Zac in quite a while...

Was gonna add Swain but someone in my lobby just locked it in

Many of these are some of the weaker champions currently. Trundle, Galio, Taric, Zac, Skarner, Fiddle sticks, Zac are all weak. Some of them are hard or too unique, so they don't recieve much play anyways, like A sol, Azir, Cass, Taliyah. Some are just underplayed always like Shaco, Olaf, Quinn, Ivern, TF, Victor, Annie and Maokai Some of these are in multiple categories.

3TWarrior1 votes

twisted usually has a decent play rate because he's cool and functions as an early game champion. It's probably a lot lower now though with so many "unseen" since it's all some different category of invisible champions that do not get revealed by his ult and so many other champions can function better than him (as one of the weakest mages in the game )

zac got pretty much ruined with his rework

kog-maw requires team work but he is still a ridiculously powerful scaling carry but he plays better as a mage than a marksman (which is kind of sad now)

ivern is all about team work and no one remembers how his pasives work

kalista got gutted repeatedly because her kit is often ridiculously overpowered if there is any semblance of team work

fiddlesticks I think it's because it's hard to use his W reliably in the modern meta

olaf...completely melee only...self-explanatory

etc

Magnesium141 votes

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twisted usually has a decent play rate because he's cool and functions as an early game champion. It's probably a lot lower now though with so many "unseen" since it's all some different category of invisible champions that do not get revealed by his ult and so many other champions can function better than him (as one of the weakest mages in the game )

zac got pretty much ruined with his rework

kog-maw requires team work but he is still a ridiculously powerful scaling carry but he plays better as a mage than a marksman (which is kind of sad now)

ivern is all about team work and no one remembers how his pasives work

kalista got gutted repeatedly because her kit is often ridiculously overpowered if there is any semblance of team work

fiddlesticks I think it's because it's hard to use his W reliably in the modern meta

olaf...completely melee only...self-explanatory

etc

In terms of fiddle sticks all he needs is a long stun maybe a hard to hit skill shot long CD low base damage, low AP ratio skill shot that has a long base stun that can be increased by AP would be great, that's all he needs to become good again. He already has the most healthy clears in the game by a long shot. A good Ivern or Kalista player will wreck you with his eyes close while watching tv and eating popcorn while being toxic in the chat all at once.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

[{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jx2c6K2g,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-09T21:04:52.292+0000)

Haven't seen a Annie AurelionSol Azir Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Galio Ivern Kalista KogMaw Maokai Olaf Quinn Shaco Skarner Taliyah Taric Trundle TwistedFate Viktor Zac in quite a while...

Was gonna add Swain but someone in my lobby just locked it in

3 of those champs are in my 7 pool lol.

Summoner SpeII2 votes

adding more bans would bring diversity into the game, but i would like bans to be split into 2 sections like pro stage, but that might make champ select too long

Saevum2 votes

But you need to explain it with words they can understand, like:

More Damage.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

By the amount of champions we have we should have really at least 10 per team.

And the banning should be maybe similar to HotS were you can’t ban the same champion twice. This or the current system but then let us ban 20 champs. 4 per player

Vah Medoh1 votes

4 per 10 players, are 40, I think you wanted to say 2? Or you wanted to say 20 per team?

VelvetCrotch1 votes

I meant either:

  • 2 bans per player without duplicates

Or

  • 4 bans per player aka 40 bans with the current system which allows duplicates

Sorry if I worded something wrong :)

Shynana1 votes

ehhh, would still be same old league

ChrisBrownze1 votes

It's mathematically impossible for 20% of champs to be "MUST pick"/"MUST ban"

Magnesium141 votes

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It's mathematically impossible for 20% of champs to be "MUST pick"/"MUST ban"

I wasn't doing the actual math, what I'm just trying to say is that a minority amount of champions are played the most because they are played the most and are broken which leads to them being must pick or must ban.

HaloWarZone1 votes

I feel like if this was added everyone would pick one role to ban 20 champs on. Leaving a role left with nothing to play.

DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes

every game is Aatrox Ahri Akali Garen Kayn Katarina Irelia Nasus Riven Qiyana Pyke LeeSin Ezreal vs Rengar Renekton Yasuo Zed Vayne Brand Draven Fizz Pyke Yuumi Swain Sylas Syndra Tryndamere Vladimir Vi yeah mostly these guys

IP Masquerena1 votes

The hell you're seeing Syndra? I haven't saw one in ages, and the only one I've seen was a smurf one tricking her, and even that was like 4 or 5 months ago.

Also, Qiyana? Unless you've played against/with me multiple times, there's no way you see Qiyana that often, heck, I'm the only Qiyana I'm seeing, and by that, I mean in the games when I'm not playing her, obviously.

Magnesium141 votes

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every game is Aatrox Ahri Akali Garen Kayn Katarina Irelia Nasus Riven Qiyana Pyke LeeSin Ezreal vs Rengar Renekton Yasuo Zed Vayne Brand Draven Fizz Pyke Yuumi Swain Sylas Syndra Tryndamere Vladimir Vi yeah mostly these guys

I've rarely seena Syndra or a Vi, (altho i did see one recently) but except for that I agree with your list, also add Darius and Illaoi.

Heraimish1 votes

We already went from 3 bans to 5 bans each team. (so a total of 10 bans per game) That's a pretty good amount. I do think having unique bans would be better (so no double bans).

Gen G mika1 votes

well, bro trusts me they will never do it, why because they don't want to.if they want to give you more ban they have to do it many years ago already.

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