[QQ/Advice Thread] I give up on ranked, I gave up on climbing

Inari Fox Orrion·Feb 18, 2017·2 votes·684 views

With all of the QQing on part of my team, with all of the QQing on part of their team, with all of the trolling, the win and loss streaks that could actually drop someone down a League completely unfairly, with all of the salty fallacy going around to make high-League players seem self-important, I feel like I can't continue on trying to climb in face of it.

I've just gone on a mostly-loss streak with the same types of teammates, and... it's not just discouraging; It's disheartening too when you have someone on their team constantly flaming, calling you "noobs" or whatever and telling you to "git gud" (you know, because a fed Zed is totally based on skill 100% - not just on one-hitting anyone he comes across, no?) even when they themselves are just a bit worse.

Advice? Any?

6 Comments

CalabokFeb 18, 20171 votes

wise choice

Inari Fox OrrionFeb 18, 20171 votes

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wise choice

Is it? Why?

CalabokFeb 18, 20171 votes

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Is it? Why?

ease your suffering

Inari Fox OrrionFeb 18, 20171 votes

I really enjoy climbing, but loss streaks and the distinct brand of toxicity I conveniently get to experience in them is just a huge pain in the ass, a huge discouragement, and in general just... makes me not want to bother.

I want advice, even if it's "You're B1, keep at it." or "You deserve B5, but learn from B2." or anything akin to it.

kristopher205Feb 18, 20171 votes

Okay well first off, it doesn't seem like you're carrying your games. I see you with a 36% ranked winrate... but only about 30 games played. You're gonna need to improve your gameplay because you can NOT rely on being carried to climb. You must be able to carry every. single. goddamn. game.

Bro. You've played around 30 games. If you wanna climb you gotta play WAYYY more games. Okay, shit happens, loss streaks WILL happen and so will win streaks. But just man up, don't care about your team mates, just yourself and you'll climb.

Inari Fox OrrionFeb 18, 20173 votes

You forget that it's not 1v5, it's 5v5. You forget that if I do carry, they will focus me. You forget that not everyone is meant to play Jhin and go 31/2/15. You forget that to carry your team, you got to be better than them by an order of magnitude. You forget that the purpose of MMR is to balance you out with teammates equal to you - but if MMR is useless for a support or someone who isn't a carry, then what's the point?

By the way, I'm suddenly certain I'm somewhere from B1 to S5, solely because of how I can play a support. If I get stuck between those two divisions, at the very least I'm somewhere I belong, but, I'm sorry, the fact 17 (I've counted. That's how bad it is. I've had a lucky 3 on their team!) of my ranked games had an AFKer on my team is NOT my fault.

I'm aware we all have to improve - I'm not infallible, and I know that - but I'm also not someone who deserves B2-B3 because Jax decided he wanted to try, well, Jax out in a ranked game. Said Jax enjoys feeding the top-laner a lot.

Edit: Think of it like this; You're 20% of your team. To carry, you need to be 80%-100% of your team. You need to be 4x-5x as good as your current MMR to carry - but what if you're only a rank or two up? After all, each league is only 25% better than the last, hence why even Challenger has issues climbing in Silver.

I don't mean to be vitriolic, it's just that my past few games and massive losing streak (I think I had like 7 wins in-between the entire 25 losses) have proven to me that, yes, it is a fallacy by math and logic alike to make some people very high up seem more important than they really are.

I'd also like you to explain now the "I must carry my match" mindset is good for the game itself? It encourages infighting, toxicity, blame, and worst of all... it encourages you to try and be better than the people you're carrying for sake of being better than them - not to improve, yourself.