An Illustration of the Problem with ADCs

Zenthon Prime·1/3/2017, 10:25:26 PM·3 votes·813 views

TL;DR: ADC itemization is crap right now and they don't scale properly compared to other classes. Keep reading for more info.


So imagine if Riot introduced this new item. Let's call it Cactopus's Crossbow. It looks roughly like this:

Cactopus's Crossbow:

  • Zeal + Pickaxe + 2x Long Sword + 125g (3000g total)
  • 60 AD
  • 20% AS
  • 20% Crit Chance
  • Unique: 5% MS

That's pretty damn good, right? Probably even broken. I mean, why would this eve-oh wait that's literally just ADC Morellonomicon.

Morellonomicon, by the way, isn't even the first item on all mages. It's not even overpowered IMO. This probably would be because AD and AP stats aren't equivalent in how they scale up, but that isn't the point. The point is that AP champions get something like this as an option for a rush item (as do other damage-dealers like assassins or bruisers), and ADCs are stuck with rushing the equivalent of frickin' Deathcap or Ludens. Do you rush Deathcap or Luden's on anyone? No, you don't, because they're only good after you've gotten a bunch of AP already and they have crappy components.

But that's exactly what ADCs have to do. They need to rush "Deathcap" (IE) and "Luden's" (Statik Shiv and other Zeal items) every single game.


My troll item up there probably isn't the solution. I don't know what is tbh. Bring back S2 Bloodthirster? Introduce a bunch of "Morellonomicons" for ADCs with unique passives to fit different types of champs? Point is, ADC early-game and mid-game needs some serious attention right now.

5 Comments

Eedat1/3/2017, 10:56:48 PM3 votes

You're missing something here. AD stacks multiplicatively due to crit. An item such as Morello is all its stats up front and doesnt inherently scale after initial purchase. The except to that is of course Deathcap, but even that item is a rarity these days.

On the other hand, the 70 AD from item 3031 get multiplied more and more the longer the game goes. Crit also multiplies base AD as well.

Although I agree with your point that Morello is a strong stat stick, this isnt exactly apples to apples

Hayaishi21/3/2017, 10:34:48 PM1 votes

S2 Bloodthirster is what we need the 100 AD back.

ProfDrDeath1/3/2017, 10:39:08 PM1 votes

Imo, it would already help if...

  • some of the component items were more costefficient. For instance, BF + Zeal as a miniature powerspike would feel better if Zeal was costing 1100 to 1150 gold instead of 1300.
  • Essence Reaver was a notch more efficient on its own - if it gave 15% CdR upfront and another 5% per 10% extra crit chance, up to 30% total, it would have a bit more power on its own, hopefully without feeling overbearing.
  • there was a mid-tier item building from Pickaxe and Vampiric Scepter to built into Bloodthirster/Scimitar/Death's Dance/Ravenous Hydra. Something with a nifty passive or active, some 35 AD (so the numbers still add up) and 10-12% Lifesteal. Riot could even use a passive that shows up on neither of the completed items - there is a precedence case with Morellonomicon already (which does not feature Lost Chapter's passive).
Tract1/3/2017, 10:57:32 PM1 votes

Early game ADC? Dravens getting some huge buffs....