dodging vs not dodging games

Very Hard Engage··5 votes·779 views

let me just start by saying last season i went 2-8 in placements (silver 4 yay!), and after playing a total of 48 games (excluding end of season/pre season) and dodging games as i deemed appropriate, i finished with a 60% win rate 29-19. (after you factor in placements which i didn't care about just wanted to get placed already) that makes 27-11.

hey hold up! thats an amazing ratio, are you a wizard!?!?!

no, its just that there are games won/lost on champ select. i can see them, you can see them too, they start with rengar top, and that questionable mid lane matchup sona vs zed. which you dont find favorable.

so lets look at this season, which entails me not dodging, now im down to a total 48% win rate after (22-24), why is this? trolls and feeders, i am literally at the mercy of my team mates instead of taking matters into my own hands. im trying to be nice and just let everything happen "maybe riot knows what they're doing", but i know better than my team mates do and i feel like im being let down in ranked. of all places.

so lets reiterate.

you can win in champ select, you can also lose. knowing this is half the battle and its the difference between climbing quickly and climbing over 300 games.

12 Comments

BIackfox1 votes

Everyone knows this though. I know if I have a teemo or mf support on my team the games over. I wish you wouldn't lose lp when you dodge though

Very Hard Engage1 votes

forget about the lp loss, only consider the dodge/time penalty. the lp loss is offset by playing higher quality games and winning in them, at my peak last season i was gaining +34LP per win and skipping divisions.

thats why i played so few games, i was often locked out or i just said "todays not my day, i just wont play." now im playing literally every game because i have the time and i find myself going "i knew the outcome and i was still surprised."

10SaeKki1 votes

this is my smurf 61win 19lose if im correct. started from bronze 4 and went to silver 2 less than 4day. I have gotten lots of trollpick. I dodged everytime. you lose lp but ur mmr stays same. By doing this way, i have skipped silver 3 and went to silver 2 from silver 4, and still maintaining my winning streak. You just lose -3lp first then -10 from second time. if u lose u lose between 19-21. just do other things during time pentalities. If u r good u can recover that -3lp really easily

edit: about the 48%winrate. Maybe you do not have enough skills to carry in your own division. you dont alwasy get thhose team. i will bet u will be carrying hard when u go down to bronze 5. Same thing here, i sometimes get 2/7 top, 0/5 mid but end up carrying

Very Hard Engage1 votes

its mostly on champ select, like i just know when the enemy team picks meta cait zyra, and we pick ezreal sona were just baked in the bot lane. my ez will have 48cs after 15minutes and he will be 3 levels down.

so maybe i could carry as a mid laner.... nah screw that, i only managed to get 4 solo kills and a 30 cs lead =/ im not so fat i could 1v5.

my 48% win rate is literally due to matchmaking, it has nothing to do with personal skill, in these games its a fiesta which i manage to be at least 1-1 and my team is down super hard.

10SaeKki1 votes

LMFAO that 48%winrate is personal skill. If u had a lots higher mechanic than ur current elo, u will have something like 40win 5lose. Dont just blame ur shit on team, and try to get good. and u have 1/4 xerath, 0/7 sion. 'Nothing to do with personal skill' ???

Very Hard Engage1 votes

because when i gank as sion my jinx takes the opportunity to run away and leave me to die instead of turn. (go on check her abyssmal damage dealt to champs, you'll notice its less than a third of every1 else on the team, you will find she was a support main on her off role adc this time around, previously silver 5 rated.... and failed to farm at all)

because when im first pick,i choose xerath and my team lacks all traces of a front line and i get directly counterpicked by katarina and then camped by voli, good for him..... (which i would normally dodge to something more favorable other than blatant hell) ....

not that those things matter in a team based game. not that counterpicks matter. not that you bothered to look at anything other than kda.

10SaeKki1 votes

guess i had 61 games of awsome team that goes 20/0 everyday to carry me, thats why i have 77%winrate. Thats ur skillcap. You cant carry

Very Hard Engage1 votes

i could be a one trick meta player and climb through bronze, becuase thats fair and balanced, and totally unbiased at all.

newsflash, even pro players like bjerg or doublelift when smurfing they maintain 100% through bronze/silver, 7080 through gold and 6070% through plat/diamond in "elo hell, i got some d2 players on my team."

despite being challenger players.

can bjerg go 20-15 in high plat low diamond? sure, good for him.

can i go 20-15 in mid gold -> low plat? its conditional but yes i am capable of it.

but atm im not because im simply not trying my hardest, if i wanted to win id pick seju and just camp the hell out of bot lane. and dodge lost games on selection

10SaeKki1 votes

lmfao ok, cool story bro. you belong where you belong

Very Hard Engage1 votes

lmfao, i can smurf and one trick in bronze for days, in fact lots of people do it and stream while doing it, how about you live up to your potential and keep climbing.

10SaeKki1 votes

cool sory bro, you belong where u belong. thats ur limite. stop replying comment and posting 'iahve 48%winrate cuz of trash team' get good instead.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

the difference between you, me, and the pros,

is that i do what they do, i try and mimic everything they do for best possible results.

i objectively look at every game and go "we lost the game because we failed to group and contest _____"

"this game was lost because _____ got picked off before the fight started (but it wasn't a pick, it was trist literally trying to wildturtle go 1v5 and win, but just got deleted, and then we had no late game adc in a team fight"

or my fav

"tryndamere went 11-0 so the mid laner was relegated top to stop hemorrhaging towers/inhib just to deal with the monster, meanwhile we lose 3v4 somewhere else on the map because we have no top laner."

" our darius didn't build black cleaver, gg"

where the games were entirely winnable or in our favor until one person steps out of line and does some bronze thing.


i can admit i miss skill shots. but the low volume losses isnt a result of a failed charm or a missed ulti. its always because my team had a difference of opinion, we failed to cooperate with eachother, and we lost every lane but the one i was in.

remind you were talking about ~28 losses here, even if just 10 were a result of trolls/feeders it then gives me a huge win rate again.

i dont feed, haven't in years.

every single death is a result of a failed team fight or a trade in exchange for something else. in extreme cases its due to spillage and the enemy team well over committing for me which is unfortunate and unavoidable.

i can admit i could do better in lane, but im not feeding, in fact im always even with my laner. my towers are the last to go, im up in cs. i could in fact snowball but thats pending lane matchup, its not a total dominance i belong in diamond screw these gold/plat plebs t doesn't matter what i play. now that im only slightly ahead, it does matter what my team mates do.

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