Can we say "We told you so" to Riot regarding Fiddlesticks' Jungle winrate now?

darkdill·Jul 12, 2015·6 votes·1,570 views

Champion.gg - Fiddlesticks Jungle Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

Fiddle used to be around a 57% winrate in jungle before Runeglaive replaced Magus. Now Fiddlesticks is slightly less than 50%, and now ranks 37/42 among the junglers.

Well Riot, we told you this sort of thing would happen...

17 Comments

Sir YamazukiJul 12, 20156 votes

less than 1% below 50%, with mains doing fine isn't bad.

darkdillJul 12, 20151 votes

It's more of how much his winrate dropped after Runeglaive. More than 7% drop is pretty vicious.

CreationFlawJul 12, 20154 votes

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It's more of how much his winrate dropped after Runeglaive. More than 7% drop is pretty vicious.

I mean, 57% winrate is pretty high. If anything, it sounds like you're complaining he's not OP anymore.

darkdillJul 12, 20151 votes

That may be the case, but I anticipate the winrate will steadily decrease even further.

LaceUp23Jul 12, 20152 votes

Mains doing fine? You do realize that Fiddles has the highest playerbase average games played. Mains are ALL THAT PLAYS HIM. You're telling me that a champ with the most average games played ranking 37/42 on the win list isn't bad? How so?

Sir YamazukiJul 13, 20152 votes

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Mains doing fine? You do realize that Fiddles has the highest playerbase average games played. Mains are ALL THAT PLAYS HIM. You're telling me that a champ with the most average games played ranking 37/42 on the win list isn't bad? How so?

They win 51%+ of the time, or are you suggesting winning more than half the time is "trash"? There are other junglers with lower winrates where their mains win less than 50% of the time, but sure, keep talking like Fiddles is bad just because he no longer has a 55% win rate even with bad players.

GunpointJul 13, 20151 votes

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Are other junglers with lower winrates where their mains win less than 50% of the time, but sure, keep talking like Fiddles is bad just because he no longer has a 55% win rate even with bad players.

I'm pretty sure a ton of his losses were from me too, I suck as Fiddlesticks. Still bought Dark Candy though, it was just so funny :P.

LaceUp23Jul 13, 20151 votes

False, I'm talking like Fiddles is ranked 37/42 on jungle list despite having the highest average games played. That is actually shit.

Sir YamazukiJul 13, 20151 votes

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False, I'm talking like Fiddles is ranked 37/42 on win list despite having the highest average games played. That is actually shit.

He's 25th. 37th is http://champion.gg/champion/Gragas/Jungle and oh look! His mains only win 47% of the time compared to Fiddles 51%.

LaceUp23Jul 13, 20151 votes

So >200 games played accounts for 3% win rate? You must be trolling. Nobody is that unintelligent.

Sir YamazukiJul 13, 20151 votes

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So >200 games played accounts for 3% win rate? You must be trolling. Nobody is that unintelligent.

Yes, I'm unintelligent because I clearly thought Fiddles win rate spot was Gragas. Nothing you say changes that fiddles mains win 51.13% of the time, which is the complete opposite of "trash".

Have a good day.

SwapShadowsJul 13, 20152 votes

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Yes, I'm unintelligent because I clearly thought Fiddles win rate spot was Gragas. Nothing you say changes that fiddles mains win 51.13% of the time, which is the complete opposite of "trash".

Have a good day.

What's with everyone using winrates to justify their arguments?

Also fiddlesticks can carry harder than a Gragas, still doesn't mean Gragas is weaker when in reality he's more reliable and better in certain situations.