Pfft Conqueror Yasuo only 40% true damage?

Hammermancer··9 votes·5,159 views

Garen item 3087 item 3031 item 3071 item 3036 Get on my level

note: This unfortunately isn't only just for memes and games

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Beerstein8 votes

League of true damage. https://i.imgur.com/xCIINws.png

We also had a Vayne.

AnataBakka4 votes

36%

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

Don't forget the armor shred on Garen's E.

Hammermancer3 votes

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Don't forget the armor shred on Garen's E.

He means yasuo, it's supposed to be 36% but unfortunately the IE crit conversion is actually currently additive and not multiplicative

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

Ohhh.

AnataBakka1 votes

really? did they change it? i tested it and it was multiplicatively

Hammermancer1 votes

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36%

vs (1-.25)(1-.3)(1-.35) then the damage is 40% true damage if you grab another 20% crit somewhere (not 100% sure what the final items are, seems like there will be stat waste unless they lower zeal items to 25%). so their armor is 34.125% (lets be nice and round up to 35%)

35% of your armor, vs 40% true damage and garen scaling. Last item would probably be something like a maw or a ga considering how many damages

Rathar Dashing1 votes

item 3071 only gives 24% reduction of armor. Not to mention you have to stack that up over 6 hits, and you have to stack Garen's shred up over 4 hits (doesn't even kick in at all until all 4 hits). Even at maximum level, it would take Garen a minimum of 1.2 seconds to max this out (one auto/Q followed by an instantaneous 5 stacks of E at .3 second intervals). This compared to Yasuo who deals 40% true damage right off the bat, per hit. Not to mention Garen already deals some true damage with his kit, and some magic damage via his ult (and Shiv, if you're going to be going with that).

At 50 armor, 40% true damage converts to 80% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 84.3% total damage. At 100 armor, 40% true damage converts to 70% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 73% total damage. At 200 armor, 40% true damage converts to 60% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 57.5% total damage.

From this, we can see that the less armor a target has, the more powerful %armor reduction is that true damage. However, against targets with around 150 armor, the 40% true damage takes over in value.

Hammermancer1 votes

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item 3071 only gives 24% reduction of armor. Not to mention you have to stack that up over 6 hits, and you have to stack Garen's shred up over 4 hits (doesn't even kick in at all until all 4 hits). Even at maximum level, it would take Garen a minimum of 1.2 seconds to max this out (one auto/Q followed by an instantaneous 5 stacks of E at .3 second intervals). This compared to Yasuo who deals 40% true damage right off the bat, per hit. Not to mention Garen already deals some true damage with his kit, and some magic damage via his ult (and Shiv, if you're going to be going with that).

At 50 armor, 40% true damage converts to 80% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 84.3% total damage. At 100 armor, 40% true damage converts to 70% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 73% total damage. At 200 armor, 40% true damage converts to 60% total damage, while 63% armor reduction converts to 57.5% total damage.

From this, we can see that the less armor a target has, the more powerful %armor reduction is that true damage. However, against targets with around 150 armor, the 40% true damage takes over in value.

but with this amazing fool proof build you achieve BOTH amazing things

Rathar Dashing3 votes

only 60% of the time, though. Plus attack speed is useless on Garen.

Critmaster Garen3 votes

im torn between options 1. and 2.

Metallikaiser2 votes

I was thinking this was going to be a comment on Conqueror Yi.

LordGeovanni1 votes

~~ Statikk Shiv ~~ item 3046 add a lethality item and boots or forget boots and go another lethality item

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