@Meddler, You are nerfing Talon's Q. That's fine. Can we get some context because Ahri still exist.

Edge of Daybreak·3/23/2017, 2:46:26 AM·5 votes·618 views

Talon is actually in a rather average place after the mastery nerfs and small nerfs to the lethality items so why are you nerfing him after everything has settled?

Personally I would like to discuss how Talon is seen as nerf worthy by the balance team for his performance in midlane but Ahri who has over 4 times his pick rate with a slightly higher winrate is fine because that seems a little odd to be nerfing anyone in mid lane that isn't Ahri since this nerf is clearly for solo queue.

Is internal testing showing something the rest of us aren't seeing because for a generalist pick like Ahri to be this good for this long the Riot of old would have nuked her from orbit.

https://na.op.gg/champion/ahri/statistics/mid

https://na.op.gg/champion/talon/statistics/mid

10 Comments

RexSaur3/23/2017, 2:48:02 AM2 votes

Talon is one of the most oppressive champions early game atm (if you're playing a melee vs him, have fun being zoned the whole lane unless you want to die in 1~2 trades) and can literally win games off a single kill in laning phase.

As good as ahri is, she isnt anywhere close to that, im surprised talon is only getting such light nerfs, a kit with that roaming power should never, ever get such easy 100-0 potential with no items early game.

Taliyah Rocks3/23/2017, 5:02:54 AM2 votes

Because Talon reaching lvl 2 before you and have him W-Q-AA-ignite you to 100-0 is HIGHLY unhealthy

Dynikus3/23/2017, 2:47:38 AM1 votes

Is internal testing showing something the rest of us aren't seeing

yeah, actual accurate statistics. None of the 3rd party sites have accurate numbers.

Raja Chachki3/23/2017, 3:08:11 AM1 votes

Compares apples to oranges