Maybe Ekko's nerfs were a bit harsh

Jarrito232·7/19/2015, 12:43:27 PM·11 votes·1,699 views
Champion.gg - Ekko Middle Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

If players with 125+ games with Ekko only have a 41.82% winrate in platinum+, then maybe Ekko sucks balls right now.

EDIT: winrates for master+ according to Lolking http://www.lolking.net/champions/ekko&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=challenger#statistics

He has a few good days where his winrate is above 50%, but most days it sits around 40% give or take 5%.

23 Comments

YOU BEEN WARNED7/19/2015, 3:30:00 PM5 votes

Or maybe they weren't enough. Just Ekko players being obnoxious loses them games.

Shénzhì7/19/2015, 4:42:39 PM3 votes

Any teleporting champion is dirty. The fact that Flash is used by every player in every match simply says teleporting is a most powerful ability. This incredibly useful game-changing ability is so engraved into this game is maybe why they do not address it.

Whether buffed or nerfed, teleporting can exploit any favorable moment and there's always a favorable moment to pounce on enemy or escape from enemy.

"So who else has dirty intolerable distance-closing?" (Intolerable because lack visual prompt and/or apply additional crowd-control)

  • EZREAL (instant tp, excess dmg hard to dodge)
  • EZREAL, EZREAL and EZREAL
  • ZED (instant cast & escape)
  • XIN ZHAO (instant cast and cc)
  • IRELIA (instant cast and cc)
  • KATARINA (instant results)
  • maybe DIANA
  • RIVEN (distance-close with excess)
  • LEBLANC (tp everywhere)
  • KASSADIN (instant and damage)
  • BLITZCRANK (instant cast and cc)
  • ALISTAR (instant close distance and cc)
  • MALPHITE (ult; instant cast and cc)
  • LEONA (cast, close and cc)
  • FIDDLESTICKS (huge distance-close; instant aoe w/ cc option)
  • FIZZ (slimey)
  • and EKKO (fk this lil bish) ...

"But they nerfed and etc, etc!" So what? That doesn't excuse their dirty kit.

Zirzon7/19/2015, 2:05:34 PM3 votes

I think that he has some small buffs on the PBE, currently.

Edit: found it

Ekko Timewinder (Q) mana cost lowered to 50/60/70/80/90 from 60/70/80/90/100 Phase Dive (E) cooldown lowered to 13/11.5/10/8.5/7 from 15/13/11/9/7

Moussetracks7/19/2015, 1:18:14 PM2 votes

I don't think anyone should ever be gutted, but I'm not going to lie, Ekko is one of those champions that shouldn't be good. His kit is so frustrating that if he is sitting at an 'even' power as everyone else, he is actually very far ahead. For further references, see;

Yasou Kallista Zed Thresh

LaceUp237/19/2015, 1:22:16 PM2 votes

Considering that Ekko's +125 game win rate is exactly equal to his average win rate, I'm going to say they didn't have a large enough sample size to calculate it, so they just left it with his normal. He is ranked 50/50 for average games played, so obviously his win rate should be just as low.

O Fallen Scholar7/19/2015, 3:22:49 PM2 votes

No, just no. Ekko is annoying and ridiculous in the right hands. He doesn't need buffs.

Baby Ghoul7/20/2015, 12:24:04 PM2 votes

People do not want Ekko to be strong because he's a high utility assassin. Assassins are highly mobile, squishy, and oppressive, so they don't normally have safety or escapes. *Fizz

He's broken by design because those things should not go together.

KONO RUBICK DA7/19/2015, 2:57:30 PM1 votes

his only nerf should have been his passive damage nerf because it suddenly took 1/2 a squishy hp

LilxPaprika7/20/2015, 4:51:35 AM1 votes

I think this change to sheen items would help ekko alot: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/PNTMYiH1-sheen-to-also-proc-like-krug-buff

since he has some fairly lengthy cooldowns (before you level them up to 5 and if you don't have that much cdr) and tends to be all in when engaging and blows all his spells. unlike say evelyn who gets alot more out of sheen.

Beddlam7/20/2015, 5:23:47 AM1 votes

He is bad in mid, but better in other positions. He is in a much better place if you look at his jungle stats, and his 50+ games played top stats are insane.

M Schumacher7/20/2015, 5:53:45 AM1 votes

no

Lugg7/20/2015, 6:01:16 AM1 votes

He has a 57% win rate in Master over the last 30 days and a 51% win rate in Challenger. So no, the nerfs were not harsh at all.

Sire Hippington7/19/2015, 3:49:51 PM1 votes

well, yes and no. Since his basekit became weaker, he now is even more reliant on landing a good W stun or ult, which increases is skillfloor. However, he still has a massive potential, and experienced players can still be insane with him. It'S also important to note that mid is by far his weakest position, his winrates top and jungle look quite different. also, the 125+ winrate doesn't show anything at this point, as very, very few players will have that much games with him atm, and thus champion.gg uses his average winrate here,as they lack samples to calculate a winrate for 125+ games.

the winrate around 50 games probaly tells more about experienced ekkos, and his winrates look different here(44%mid, 52%jungle, 70% top)