PSA for ADC's

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If you are last pick and your team looks like this, Hecarim Zed Braum Sion

Play a mage If not Corki or KogMaw...

Just do it...

16 Comments

PhDs Nuts6 votes

PSA for everyone else: If you don't want a full AD comp, maybe don't draft 4 ADs before your ADC has picked.

Rock MD1 votes

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Picking Tristana would be a free win. A mage would get dicked on during lane phase pre-6 in a 2v2.

PSA for teams in general: If you don't want a full AD comp, maybe don't draft 4 ADs before your ADC has picked. Corki blows ass right now and Kog'Maw relies heavily on the rest of you to not be incompetent until 4 items.

Actually I believe the reason Corki blows dick is purely off itemization.

People keep building him crit but the one time he was in LCK he was (mid I believe) 4/1/5 with Triforce -> Gunblade -> Draktharr.

He's probably a true burst/poke hybrid champion now with skirmishing capabilities instead of an ADC. That's what it looks like to me.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chairman Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:59:33.382+0000)

Actually I believe the reason Corki blows dick is purely off itemization.

That is the reason, but it still puts him at the bottom of the totem pole.

Rock MD1 votes

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That is the reason, but it still puts him at the bottom of the totem pole.

Thing is you're not supposed to take him ADC anymore for that reason so he'd kinda be bottom of the ADC charts.

Is he bottom of the barrel mid though? Idk. It depends on how reliable his burst is since he and Tailyah serve similar functions and considering Taliyah is getting destroyed next patch he might just replace her.

Rock MD2 votes

Why? It's very possible to get away with full AD teams in the game right now.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chairman Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:33:04.279+0000)

Why? It's very possible to get away with full AD teams in the game right now.

Full AD isn't the issue. It's range. 4 melee champs and a carry will get nuked from orbit by a good Mage before they even get across the lane.

Rock MD4 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:38:16.978+0000)

Full AD isn't the issue. It's range. 4 melee champs and a carry will get nuked from orbit by a good Mage before they even get across the lane.

Lmao what.

I'm getting old so please jog my memory.

How do two very anti-mage/skillshot champions including an AD assassin who shits on mages get nuked by a mage before they move across the lane?

On top of that how does Braum get dicked by characters with PROJECTILES?

The Yetii Rider1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chairman Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:41:04.665+0000)

Lmao what.

I'm getting old so please jog my memory.

How do two very anti-mage/skillshot champions including an AD assassin who shits on mages get nuked by a mage before they move across the lane?

On top of that how does Braum get dicked by characters with PROJECTILES?

Zed is very easy to screw up with. He's got a bad win rate for a reason.

Braum's E is completely reactionary. You can take advantage of latency or bad connections (which have happened a lot on these recent patches) to punish him.

There's more to this game than numbers. Mages and ranged characters in general excel at punishing human error.

PhDs Nuts2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:50:27.706+0000)

Braum's E is completely reactionary. You can take advantage of latency or bad connections (which have happened a lot on these recent patches) to punish him.

There's more to this game than numbers. Mages and ranged characters in general excel at punishing human error.

Are you really arguing for team comps based on hoping that the enemy team has high ping or is just bad?

The game gets a lot easier if their jungler bugsplats, too, but I'm not gonna balance around it.

Rock MD2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:50:27.706+0000)

Zed is very easy to screw up with. He's got a bad win rate for a reason.

Braum's E is completely reactionary. You can take advantage of latency or bad connections (which have happened a lot on these recent patches) to punish him.

There's more to this game than numbers. Mages and ranged characters in general excel at punishing human error.

Well sorry bud but I play near the highest levels of play (was D2-D1 before decaying down to D5) so hard to master and bad latency aren't excuses for players doing poorly at what champions excel at doing. Fact of the matter is your statement is false and you're trying to justify what you said with low elo issues like lag (higher elo players tend to use ethernet ports making that statement moot) and difficulty (do I even need to explain this one).

The Yetii Rider1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chairman Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-26T16:56:00.510+0000)

Well sorry bud but I play near the highest levels of play (was D2-D1 before decaying down to D5) so hard to master and bad latency aren't excuses for players doing poorly at what champions excel at doing. Fact of the matter is your statement is false and you're trying to justify what you said with low elo issues like lag (higher elo players tend to use ethernet ports making that statement moot) and difficulty (do I even need to explain this one).

Wow, it's almost like your advice has no use to 98% of the playerbase because your experience is completely different.

Meanwhile, down here in the top 70% or where ever I am, my suggestions are relevant.

PhDs Nuts2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-08-26T17:00:47.510+0000)

Wow, it's almost like your advice has no use to 98% of the playerbase because your experience is completely different.

Meanwhile, down here in the top 70% or where ever I am, my suggestions are relevant.

Except not really. "Exploit bad ping" isn't good advice for any specific rank. It also won't make you any better at the game.

Rock MD2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JabJAEoJ,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-08-26T17:00:47.510+0000)

Wow, it's almost like your advice has no use to 98% of the playerbase because your experience is completely different.

Meanwhile, down here in the top 70% or where ever I am, my suggestions are relevant.

"In my elo, my arguments are relevant and yours aren't!"

boy in your elo people don't even know how to position a mage to avoid getting killed instantly don't pull that snarky "my elo" argument with me because in Gold V every champion is a frontline champion.

Navarune1 votes

Kog'Maw in that comp would absolutely wreck. Scary thought.

Requiemsfire1 votes

Pick Sivir make it a strong engage comp.

zlumpy1 votes

Or pick an adc with lots of cc.

Also between Sion and Hecarim that team has some serious engage power.

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