Fizz got the Ahri Charm damage amp treatment

stealthfox94·Feb 3, 2015·5 votes·1,258 views

Now he's garbage

14 Comments

RebonackFeb 4, 20152 votes

Maybe put the damage amp on his E instead?

That would make it a little more readily available.

Or reduce the damage on his Ult to the point that it's more akin to a basic skill and give it a 12 second cooldown. THROW FISH EVERYWHERE!

Long Dong WukongFeb 3, 20151 votes

That's how it works.

It tricks the uninformed into thinking that it's going to be okay, and then in reality it's the absolute worst way to nerf a champion.

stealthfox94Feb 3, 20151 votes

This is why I'll never understand people complaining about them essentially reversing the Ahri S4 changes. It's just dumb how the gutted Fizz the same patch Riot made Ahri what she was before or at least similar.

Long Dong WukongFeb 3, 20151 votes

The gutting is so much worse than Ahri it isn't even funny though. I don't know what the fuck they were on, but at some point they thought that having the damage amp on a 100 second cooldown in comparison to Ahri's 12 was a good idea.

I still swear that it's Ghostcrawler's fault. Blizzard made some heroin-induced balance changes constantly while he was working for them, and now he's working for Riot and suddenly Season 5, the most shit season yet.

AaravosFeb 3, 20151 votes

Nobody knows what was the idea behind this Fizz changes but its clear they don't even understand his mechanism. I think the balance team is a garbage as it is and full with gold/silver players this is why this patch come to live. Only the dfg removing was a good change in 5.2 the rest of them was trash. And nobody use the pbe to testing balance changes.

stealthfox94Feb 3, 20151 votes

I actually started combo's with his ult a decent amount, but this takes away the Q/W melee harass that I liked to do with him in the laning phase plus if you miss your ult you just lost all of your kill potential.

stealthfox94Feb 3, 20151 votes

That's an interesting theory, I'd agree the changes to Fizz are worse then what they did to Ahri a little over a year ago. Since the AMP is on his ult. He now arguably hast the worst pre-6 that any champion has ever had, I'm convinced Veigar could bully him out of lane now.

SouL1essFeb 3, 20151 votes

He can't if Fizz maxes W.

W is a very strong early trade tool, just like how it was on Fizz's release; perhaps even stronger because the missing health damage is now instantaneous.

Fizz still lanes fine early against mages, but he now has absolutely zero presence against AD assassin mids.

Chaotic ReksFeb 3, 20151 votes

Which is what riot is trying to push apparently. nobody is allowed to hurt Zed

SouL1essFeb 3, 20151 votes

It doesn't help that the enemy can remove the shark with QSS, and the shark's actual damage can be nullified by Zhonya's Hourglass.

After that, you are stuck with a Zed that can dance around with invulnerability but isn't actually a threat.

LXIIFeb 3, 20151 votes

Ever play AD bruiser fizz? I've won literally every top lane with him.

stealthfox94Feb 3, 20151 votes

I tried it once and I was against Lissandra, needless to say I didn't do to hot. Just curious though what do you build on him I was thinking of trying it again and going something like item 3153 item 3022 item 3078 item 3143

PentaJumpFeb 3, 20151 votes

I'm currently playing in plat 2. I've had some success with bruiser Fizz as a jungler. The w changes makes his waveclear a lot better than it used to be.

Not totally sure how to build him though. AS, on-hit, and defense are the most valued stats, in my opinion.

Chespin2013Feb 4, 20151 votes

ya i agree i thought he needed a little bit of nerfs only needing a few items to kill anyone but still now hes just shit wish riot would just stop the stupid over nerfs already and now i hear they are nerfing kassadin for a 4th time now