New Trinity is a Proof that Riot plays favorites (Item is tweaked to only fit Lucian And Gangplank)

Poske·Jan 6, 2016·3 votes·726 views

Seriously

Trinity BECAME awkward. It used to be core for so many champions and now its a noob trap for them

Now its meh item for ezreal,jax,irelia,corki,udyr,kow maw

It used to be their Core ITEM and now its barely viable and you mostlikely wont build it

So Great Job with this 1 Riot. Item cost 3500+ gold and it is only core for 2 champions in the game atm that being Gangplank and Lucian who are obviously Riot favorites

Example of good item rework Hurricane

Used to be must on kalista and situational on kayle. Which basicly means we would see this item so rare that people forgot it existed

Now its core for: Kalista,Twitch,Kayle,Caitlyn,Kow maw,jinx it aint bad on Ashe To. I assume it could work on varus to

TLDR New trinity a godamn 3500 + gold item AND IT is core on only 2 champions????

13 Comments

UnpaladinJan 6, 20164 votes

######You're kidding right? Kalista, Twitch, and Caitlyn have nowhere near acceptible cooldowns for Triforce to work properly with what their character does, and Kayle should be using Lich Bane if she wants to burst. I would like you to tell me why you would purchase such an item on them right now because as it is that sounds awful.

Trinity Force gained CDR and an extra 10% Critical chance, bumping it up to 20%. This is important because it makes the Critical Strike chance more of a "hit more or build crit and you are rewarded" which is much more sufficient at providing an outcome than a little bit of AP. The only champions I can see that lose out on efficiency due to the changes that come to mind are Jax and Irelia. Then again, Jax hits fast so he can even out the damage that he lost (that would have been dealt using his occasional W). Ezreal was hardly gimped here outside of his ultimate and E's damage, because if you're building a Triforce the odds are you just need one more Crit item to make his autoattacks a proper threat now instead of being the confetti you butter people up with.

This is nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be outside of very specific cases.

PoskeJan 6, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nova Force,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JY5IlAuI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-06T21:26:47.655+0000)

You're kidding right? Kalista, Twitch, and Caitlyn have nowhere near acceptible cooldowns for Triforce to work properly with what their character does, and Kayle should be using Lich Bane if she wants to burst. I would like you to tell me why you would purchase such an item on them right now because as it is that sounds awful.

Trinity Force gained CDR and an extra 10% Critical chance, bumping it up to 20%. This is important because it makes the Critical Strike chance more of a "hit more or build crit and you are rewarded" which is much more sufficient at providing an outcome than a little bit of AP. The only champions I can see that lose out on efficiency due to the changes that come to mind are Jax and Irelia. Then again, Jax hits fast so he can even out the damage that he lost (that would have been dealt using his occasional W). Ezreal was hardly gimped here outside of his ultimate and E's damage, because if you're building a Triforce the odds are you just need one more Crit item to make his autoattacks a proper threat now instead of being the confetti you butter people up with.

This is nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be outside of very specific cases.

Re read it

And Trinity is horrible item for ezreal atm you are a victim of noobtrap if you still build it ... which I doubt you do

ViashinoWizardJan 6, 20163 votes

Trinity Force is still core on Ezreal. The extra crit and CDR make it even better than it was due to synergy with item 3508

PoskeJan 7, 20162 votes

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Trinity Force is still core on Ezreal. The extra crit and CDR make it even better than it was due to synergy with

Both trinity and ER suck for ezreal atm ....

He doesnt need crit

UnpaladinJan 7, 20164 votes

You may just be saying the item is awkward, but you also said that "it's only good on 2 champions". It's like you're blowing things out of proportion. The only way it seems awkward is that it became slightly less good on what seems to be Jax, Irelia and Corki due to the loss of AP. All three of these champions use autoattacks and can potentially Crit more due to the more reliable Crit chance, so the stat change didn't exactly make this item worthless on them.

It is most definitely not a noob trap item on Ezreal, it fits with and improves his signature ability while simultaneously being a good catalyst for other items due to the CDR, AS and (now higher) Crit chance. Ezreal is also designed to work well in skirmishes, something which this item helps via Phage and MS%. He is a burst caster AD carry just like Lucian is, so why would it be good for Lucian and not for Ezreal?

which I doubt you do

Oh yes, that is what I do alright.

MimyJan 6, 20162 votes

Wish they kept the AP and got rid of the mana.. Would of worked on a lot more of my champions that way.. xD

ViashinoWizardJan 6, 20161 votes

Corki is consistently the best or second-best performing ADC at plat and above, where his most common first item by a huge margin is Trinity Force. Similarly, Udyr is in the top 5 of junglers for win rate and almost always grabs TriForce as his second item. For almost any champion that used TriForce, more mana and 10% CDR is as good if not better than the stats the item lost, and that's without considering the extra 10% crit. The only champion who's stopped being successful with it is Jax due to his very AS-focused build, and even before the changes he wasn't building it much anyway.

PoskeJan 7, 20161 votes

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Corki is consistently the best or second-best performing ADC at plat and above, where his most common first item by a huge margin is Trinity Force. Similarly, Udyr is in the top 5 of junglers for win rate and almost always grabs TriForce as his second item. For almost any champion that used TriForce, more mana and 10% CDR is as good if not better than the stats the item lost, and that's without considering the extra 10% crit. The only champion who's stopped being successful with it is Jax due to his very AS-focused build, and even before the changes he wasn't building it much anyway.

Still item is less fitting for all of them but yeah its still core core corki i guess

All jax players used to go Trinity botrk > full tank

well they would definetly go trinity

Earl EulrichJan 7, 20161 votes

i agree with you on the new trinity - it´s just really a bad item choice on almost any champ now except for closing out the build when you´re ahead anyway...

i don´t agree on hurricane though, it has the exact same problem: adding crit to an item that had been primarily used becaused it worked with on-hit just killed it for the original users (apart from kalista, ok). If they wanted the new hurricane as adc-option that´s fine, but they just should have offered it alongside the old hurricane, not replacing it.

PoskeJan 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JY5IlAuI,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-07T02:30:12.396+0000)

i agree with you on the new trinity - it´s just really a bad item choice on almost any champ now except for closing out the build when you´re ahead anyway...

i don´t agree on hurricane though, it has the exact same problem: adding crit to an item that had been primarily used becaused it worked with on-hit just killed it for the original users (apart from kalista, ok). If they wanted the new hurricane as adc-option that´s fine, but they just should have offered it alongside the old hurricane, not replacing it.

I like new hurricane

Finaly I can build it on twitch and Cait (;

Old hurricane was core on none except kalista you would get flamed for building it on twitch before .. Kayle has lots of core items so its fine xd

Earl EulrichJan 7, 20161 votes

old hurricane had been core on kalista, kayle, tanky teemo/kog/twitch, kennen, kindred...it could have needed a slight buff, but it really had been a good option on ranged champs with on-hits that wanted to teamfight. no need to shift it from on-hit to crit. just another example where they replace instead of add and thus kill some diversity.

PoskeJan 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JY5IlAuI,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-01-07T03:38:07.436+0000)

old hurricane had been core on kalista, kayle, tanky teemo/kog/twitch, kennen, kindred...it could have needed a slight buff, but it really had been a good option on ranged champs with on-hits that wanted to teamfight. no need to shift it from on-hit to crit. just another example where they replace instead of add and thus kill some diversity.

It was never been core for anyone other then kalista and for kayle (but that was like for 2 patches)

You were a victim of noob trap

Dont get me wrong I used that item on teemo twitch but yeah it was bad ... weak item

Earl EulrichJan 7, 20161 votes

yea, a "noob-trap" with >70%winrate. just broaden your horizon sometimes - lol is not all SR and not all meta.