Would New Talon be able to...

Xyntheyxz·Oct 20, 2016·49 votes·3,191 views

Hop over / / walls?

51 Comments

Mira Arya EntheOct 20, 201633 votes

I don't know. But I find it sad somebody downvoted you for asking a question. Screw the boards and their passive, aggressive childishness. Can't just read a post and provide input, everyone absolutely must be rude.

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20162 votes

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I don't know. But I find it sad somebody downvoted you for asking a question. Screw the boards and their passive, aggressive childishness. Can't just read a post and provide input, everyone absolutely must be rude.

Yea especially since i dont have PBE...gotta rely on others.

VoidStaresBackOct 20, 20166 votes

I think in this case there are a couple of assassin players who are really salty about the way the reworks turned out and are downvoting every post that mentions their particular grievance case, because a lot of other question threads have gone relatively untouched while a few other assassin-mentioning threads get random downvotes nearly the moment they come out.

Teridax68Oct 20, 20164 votes

I definitely think there are players here who will downvote purely on disagreement, even if that disagreement is with Riot and not the post itself, but I also feel there are some players who get competitive with thread presence, and will downvote other threads to bump theirs up. League Boards use the same format as Reddit and, like Reddit, have developed their own subculture of upvote farming, especially on Gameplay, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were similar kinds of upvote manipulation going on.

VoidStaresBackOct 20, 20161 votes

Oh yeah that's a thing isn't it...

I set my thread display to newest update a long, long time ago, so it's never actually affected which threads come up for me. I never even thought about that...

The more you know!

Bladerunner7777Oct 21, 20161 votes

I know what you are but what am I?!?

1 800 Top LaneOct 20, 201614 votes

More like can he hop over Trumps wall?

summoner 31

BeatzBoyFTWOct 20, 201610 votes

Yorick : (walls Talon) NOW EXPERIENCE THE POWER OF MY REWO- Talon : (hops over) Yorick : ... Yorick : ... Yorick : ... Yorick : ... Talon : Get back to your dark corner. Yorick : ...k

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20162 votes

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: (walls Talon) NOW EXPERIENCE THE POWER OF MY REWO- : (hops over) : ... : ... : ... : ... : Get back to your dark corner. : ...k

Im sure if Talon does it parallel to Taliyah ult they BOTH can 'ride the wall'

RuPaulOct 20, 20163 votes

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Im sure if Talon does it parallel to Taliyah ult they BOTH can 'ride the wall'

I'm kind of sure that his E has a max range, so you can't hob over huge walls

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20162 votes

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I'm kind of sure that his E has a max range, so you can't hob over huge walls

We gotta rely on Vandiril to know then...

AdriqnoheeOct 20, 20164 votes

The rioter who worked on Talon already confirmed that you can't surf her wall, E has a max range.

SkelenthOct 20, 20164 votes

E has around the 1.5x the range of flash. You can target the point where you want to end up. If there is no wall, nothing happens. If there is a wall between you and your targeted area, you hop over. If there is still wall even after your targeted area, you don't hop or hop so that you end up in an area that would be in your initial range.

Tl;dr You can't hop over any walls that are larger than your E range

XeruonOct 20, 20162 votes

If the targeted area of the wall isn't isn't over the halfway point, you will still dash sideways, instead of over the wall.

MunchCrunchLunchOct 20, 20169 votes

all terrain. am guessing excluding azir ult because it knocks you back.

Votable JesterOct 20, 20162 votes

That's what a Rioter said. There was also apparently some bug with Taliyah's wall, but that may have been fixed now.

ChaddyFantomeOct 20, 20167 votes

yes he can but only once

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20167 votes

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yes he can but only once

You only need to do it once tho... Taliyah blocks your escape? PARKOUR. Anivia blocks your escape? PARKOUR. Yorick try to trap you? PARKOUR.

ChaddyFantomeOct 20, 20162 votes

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You only need to do it once tho... Taliyah blocks your escape? PARKOUR. Anivia blocks your escape? PARKOUR. Yorick try to trap you? PARKOUR.

Was thinking more in the case of allied walls. But yea lol.

Teridax68Oct 20, 20164 votes

Yes, he can, and he even got some additional coding work done specifically so that he could hop over player-made terrain.

reaperteaserOct 20, 20163 votes

aswell as trundle pillar and j4 ult

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20168 votes

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aswell as trundle pillar and j4 ult

Zzrot portal too.

(Psst ever built zzrot on Poppy? E then place portal REALLY fast.)

AazzlanoOct 20, 20164 votes

...LOL. Does that stun them?

nekochanOct 20, 20166 votes

I would think so, it stops sion ults

The Yetii RiderOct 20, 20165 votes

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Zzrot portal too.

(Psst ever built zzrot on Poppy? E then place portal REALLY fast.)

Holy crap, this is genius. I gotta try this.

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20165 votes

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Holy crap, this is genius. I gotta try this.

Ive only ever done it once as poppy support. got so much honours.

ItsbeghdevOct 21, 20161 votes

Seems like it'd be best for support, too, what with ruby sightstone.

LuunaLilyOct 20, 20162 votes

Apparently he goes really really slow over trundle pillars though xD From what I caught at the livestream, only knockups cancel his new e and slows make him go through the animation slightly slower. Plus you can wall run if you aim it correctly!

XyntheyxzOct 20, 20161 votes

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Apparently he goes really really slow over trundle pillars though xD From what I caught at the livestream, only knockups cancel his new e and slows make him go through the animation slightly slower. Plus you can wall run if you aim it correctly!

Im pretty sure Vandiril would upload a vid of Talon trundle anivia taliyah etc, all but zzrots, and see how far Talon can PARKOUR for without walking...

AmazoXOct 20, 20162 votes

He can jump over all the walls except Azir wall they will push talon back

IdrooldOct 20, 20162 votes

he can hop over all the walls in the game, even the walls which are created by champions except the Azir wall..

CalabokOct 20, 20161 votes

i hope not

IdrooldOct 20, 20162 votes

apparently he can

Jet SettOct 20, 20161 votes

I figured for the sake of balance they would probably not allow him to do it on champion made structures, though that would make him a bit less mobile than other assassins in that one instance, so I can't say for sure what they want to do with it.

Meep ManOct 20, 20161 votes

Yes, although I think Azir wall boots him back

warpenguin555Oct 20, 20161 votes

I have a PBE account, i can try to find out for you when i get home from class. Need something to kill time before doom bots anyway EDIT: Never mind looks like others got you the answer already

Masterofchaos999Oct 20, 20161 votes

The real question is, if he can does he have to wait the full cool down to jump it again, or can he jump it every time they put it up?

Stars ShaperOct 20, 20161 votes

If he can (and I think he can) then any new placement of said walls counts as a new one, hence it should be hoppable.

CC MustangOct 20, 20161 votes

Every terrain except azir ult.

MyTeamIsAwsomeOct 20, 20161 votes

Yes. Vandiril did a bideo testing every possible wall. Only wall you vant jump over is enemy azir wall

Jungle Lux GodOct 20, 20161 votes

It's entirely possible that Talon won't be able to jump over Yorick's wall because that wall is targetable. Clicking the wall to jump over it might end up causing Talon to auto attack it instead.

Taliyah and Anivia's walls I'm pretty sure work.

RocketRelmOct 20, 20161 votes

How about Towers? Either alive, or dead. That'd be one wonky animation for alive though.

SteelflameOct 21, 20161 votes

He can towers.

FriusOct 20, 20161 votes

or hop over wall in game of thrones? whitewalker?

BârdOct 21, 20161 votes

yes, but he can't hop over Taliyah Azir walls until they are fully formed.

ZerenzaOct 21, 20161 votes

All terrain except Azir wall, the rioter in the stream was asked the same question.

mustafa2881Oct 21, 20161 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgc8JJMqvY

Critmaster GarenOct 21, 20161 votes

jarvan mains are gonna be sad.

until now, talon could only situationally get out of the ult, when he had a target in e range on the other side. i feel sorry for them. more and more champions simply dont care about his arena.

DKM BismarckOct 21, 20161 votes

Yes, he can. The champion-created terrain it appears he cannot vault over right now is Azir R, most likely because it is designed to keep you away. (Have not tested ally Azir though. Only heard anything about Azir at all through people speaking about it.)