Toplane has zero impact on the game

the weeaboo·4/18/2018, 4:07:08 PM·33 votes·14,773 views

For the past couple days I've really been enjoying Irelia and I've been doing great on her but holy hell I take her into ranked and I'm useless. It doesn't matter who crushes who in top lane, there has been a stupid amount of games where I absolutely stomped toplane, I'm up like 30 CS, 2 towers, and 3 kills, but then I try to go anywhere but toplane and get absolutely destroyed if my team didn't also win their lanes. I can't do anything.

My botlane feeds? Okay, I can just kill the ADC i say. But suddenly the Kaisa manages to blow me up when I'm a full item ahead of her just because as soon as I try to go on her she just runs away then Qs me while Janna manages to block every goddamn dash, auto, and spell that I throw at them.

Feels bad man.

54 Comments

ankoanko194/18/2018, 5:13:42 PM17 votes

Welcome to the past 2 seasons as a toplaner! But I digress better buff ADC's.

eaglei34/18/2018, 7:21:58 PM13 votes

Top lane per type when against fed opponents.

Fighter or bruiser Toplane - Get blownup trying to fight in teamfights by the support and adc tag team. Have fun trying to get into fight next to priority target and sticking to them.

Tank Toplane - Run around hitting all your cc then realize the enemy is still alive and are ignoring you cause your team had no damage and the fed opponents do.

Split Pusher - Your team decides to stay dead every minute of the game where you can't get a successful push going without the opponent running it down midlane taking your towers faster.

Toplane AP - Mid lane was over there. But maybe by your powers combined, you and mid can burst down one enemy.

densi4/18/2018, 8:40:54 PM8 votes

just feed a little and you'll have more impact on the game than you will ever have when you're ahead

ReshiKillim4/18/2018, 5:14:00 PM7 votes

Toplane will start being much more impactful through patch 8.10 and 8.11, as that's when the marksmen changes are coming. And also maybe some changes for fighters after that so that they have more potential to carry a match if they get ahead than they currently do.

muted team chat4/19/2018, 3:17:55 AM6 votes

As a jg main I have felt the burn of over-investing in top lane ganks, getting someone fed, and then my bot lane doesn't stomp so we lose.

Some games I don't even clear mt top jg because I NEED to be near bot lane all the time.

Jg is the 2nd support now.

Divine Thighs4/18/2018, 10:20:03 PM5 votes

Irelia is pretty good in team fights to. Imagine what other top laners feel like.

Pls Grow A Pair4/18/2018, 10:54:42 PM4 votes

100% True and I've been spamming Irelia in ranked queues myself.

I average a KD of 8.3 / 5.1 / 7.6 and I have just a 41% winrate because although I stomp the fuck out of my lane opponent, if the enemy ADC has just a couple of kills over ours I can't do shit.

Even as a champ like Irelia I feel if I jump on the enemy ADC and kill her, because I'm the fed one on my team, my team just gets shredded behind me by Udyr's, Xin Zhao's whatever.

Mid game I can deal with ADCs pretty effectively, hell, it's what I do and I've been doing it for 4 seasons. I only play Camille Irelia and Jax top. But there comes a point in the game, once the ADC has a few items and their support has a few items I simply cant do shit cuz the enemy ADC gets peeled hard AF and gets rediculous shields from their support. Not to mention late game they just do INSANE damage compared to a full build bruiser, who by the way does not get the same level of protection as an ADC.

Having been a top lane bruiser main (with the exception of Trundle and some others in certain METAs) for 4 seasons I can confidently say it has never been so challenging to kill the other team's god damn ADC and it's so unhealthy for the game to revolve around them. Its fucking bullshit and how this hasn't been fixed is beyond me.

Playing top lane, and particularly bruisers was an effective way of carrying because it allowed you to take care of the enemy's squishies thus getting rid of most of their damage output. NOTICE I HAVENT EVEN MENTIONED THE AP CARRY IN THE MID LANE BECAUSE WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THEM ANYMORE LOL

Now it seems like they're not even meant to do that anymore! I only continue to play these champs because these are the champs that I think are cool which is how the game SHOULD BE PLAYED. You should NOT be put at a disadvantage for wanting to play a particular set of champs. I get that there a METAs, which are actually healthy for the game, but to make ONE class so superior to the rest is so unhealthy.

As for the tards who might come and say "u got a low winrate cuz ur not doing the right things to help your team", at the end of the day, if you have a good average KDA over many games, it means you're not feeding, and you're generating gold for your team. Gold ---> Items ---> Damage ---> Turrets ---> Nexus. If I was a sellout and could be fucked to learn and just go play ADC I garauntee you my winrate would increase by atleast 10% because 90% of my losses JUST BY COINCIDENCE are games where my bot lane lost.

So sick of this ADC meta bs and riot really dont give a fuck about the gamers who actually trying to reach their full potential while playing the champions they want. By playing the same champs I almost reach PLAT twice (Gold II in S5, Gold I in S6). Now? I'm stuck in Gold V with a 48% win rate. Say what you like about me, but if there's one thing that's true about ALL players it's that people don't get WORSE the MORE they play this game!

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I am Pacman4/18/2018, 8:04:40 PM3 votes

Welcome to toplane lol.

Gives you some perspective as to why top laners are constantly complaining doesn't it?

Now imagine all of what you said but you also couldn't lane against any tanks whatsoever. At least now we have conqueror.

SpecterVonBaren4/19/2018, 5:38:04 AM3 votes

Nah, you have plenty of impact, just take Teleport and gank bot! [sg-miss-fortune]

guseul884/19/2018, 12:34:45 AM2 votes

??

T4underbolt4/18/2018, 6:36:43 PM2 votes

Enjoy game made by a god damn ghostcrawler,meddler and reptoir. Their goal is to be biased and make strong only those champs and classes they like.

StpTlkinAnBndOvr4/19/2018, 3:32:04 AM2 votes

maybe see they have a janna?

Fear the Kayn4/19/2018, 10:44:39 AM2 votes

I hope the midseason patch soon absolutely destroys ADCs impact on games.

TwinkiePro4/18/2018, 10:11:24 PM2 votes

I disagree. The enemy yi a few games ago ganked me top 3 times and went to stomp the rest of the game cuz of my feeding :D

Vlada Cut7/10/2019, 4:33:06 PM1 votes

Try carrying and 1v9 a game as Camille. Good luck diving a teamfight with no way to escape.

FioraWillCarry1/25/2019, 12:55:26 PM1 votes

If you're losing to a marksman on Irelia while being a full item ahead, you're definitely doing something wrong. Even a 1-4 can completely dominate a 4-1 marksman, with few exceptions like Vayne and Tristana who can peel for themselves. Marksmen scale ridiculously slow, one of the reasons I hate playing the AD carry role.

Duke Milkman4/19/2018, 6:21:13 PM1 votes

Top lane has issues and needs to be fixed. ADCs and supports have to be nerfed. However, just because you win lane doesn't mean that you should win the entire game.

Malix Farwin4/19/2018, 6:29:36 PM1 votes

Mid is kinda in the same boat but slightly better because you can play a mage and support bot lane?

Alex h87214/21/2018, 1:05:12 AM1 votes

True, basically games come down to whose adc is more farmed/fed and can position better for their team to peel for them, since they undisputedly do the most damage lategame.

The ONLY times this isn't the case is if the adc is fed/ smart but all other lanes lost and are way behind so they can't effectively support their adc, OR if someone on the bad adc's team is a HYPER FED Zed or some such champ and gets through the peel to delete the adc and win teamfight win game. HOWEVER that "adc assassinator" has to be a ton more fed than the adc/adc's team for this to work (and the ADC can't be Tristana )

deadlychuck4/19/2018, 1:56:27 AM1 votes

Pantheon meta m8

I'm actually surprised that people haven't started playing bard "top" and roaming maxing their chime collection

optTyrantz1/25/2019, 9:33:41 AM1 votes

Ya the coinflip jg bot is fking real of who gunna turbo feed

The thigh guy1/25/2019, 11:23:07 AM1 votes

Been saying this for weeks. Top and bot do not matter. Only mid and jungler matter at this point because they decided all the other lanes.

noxus is op4/19/2018, 5:25:30 AM1 votes

should do what i did become an adc player. ahhhhhh good times.... i tend to feed ;_;