He has way too much damage for when teams are trying to group up and front line. He legit needs nerfs badly. I like don't even know why he alone can just do his complete rotation and win every team fight. His passive is giving him way too much damage. Yes i know this sounds like a qq thread and i'd be lying if i said it wasn't but something has to change.
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesWell unlike most mages, he brings pretty much nothing to a team but damage and a conditional stun.
So he should be good at what he does.
JustMonika132 votesSo why isn't he a top pick? Don't get me wrong I hate Brand but I see no issue ignoring my bias.
Sinister Anubis1 votesSeeing how he has been banned in worlds at least 5 times. He is also 5th highest win rated champion according to op.gg right now i'd say something needs changed. There is no reason he should be able to do that much aoe on an entire team comp do %hp damage and have a passive that explodes all types of damage in aoe. He is by far the best aoe champion in the game that can deal as much dps as a ryze could. All i'm saying is aoe champions shouldn't be able to nuke an entire team with one rotation. Hell kataina can't even do that she has to get resets and wait for the right moment to go in not to mention her ulti only hits 3 targets not 5. Coupled with his E and W which is also dealing shit tons of damage and he can stun whoever gets near him and he just sits back and watch's his passive finish them off. Its kind of lame watching that. All he has to do is sit in back line and wait for a team fight to break out and its a auto win.
Also remember just because he isn't in top 5 picks doesn't mean he isn't a little bit over tuned. Tell me another champions passive that will deal as much damage in a aoe team fight as his.
JustMonika131 votes... If you read any of the mage update notes they updated him so his identity would be THE AoE mage that punishes grouping. He has nothing else going for him besides a conditional single target stun. Without his AoE damage he is nothing.
I still hate him.
Sinister Anubis1 votesI get that i really do. But it should take more then 1 rotation of spells to do that type of damage. The damage is overloaded as all to hell.
sobi9992 votesSo one weakness of brand is to not group. WOW. Ok guys the tanks/supp can go right, the ranged champs can go left and the jungl can go upfront. That way no AOE damage. wow. So what will happen to the jungl? Will get wiped in sec. The ones in right/left are next. Obviously different champs can spread out in different ways
Not only that his AOE is not related to an area but spreads to allies. This alone makes the whole team spread out. As far as i remember, half of the game is reliant on team fights and with brand, that is not possible. He will obviously stay away from poke range and do his burst AOE damage when he gets the chance, wiping the whole team out. Other champs with AOE ult like fortune, zyra, lux have alot of limitations and whatsoever do not kill an entire team or cause disruption. How many mages do you see that deal burst damage are mobile? Lux? Veig? But they do not deal AOE damage that follows allies thus you can't even group. This is what needs to be targeted and not his burst damage because that way he would just be like other mages. Burst damage was never meant to be directed at an entire team. That's foolish for riot to do that.
Chalizard1 votesHe has also low mobility and lot of skillshots, I mean real skillshots that are possible to dodge but I agree he has tons of aoe damage even though he is not only mage overpowered right now.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesI used to play some Brand before the Mage update and he was dealing more damage... Now you can deal some damage only with the passive proc. I guess you never played Brand before.
Sinister Anubis1 votesthis comment alone piss's me off. telling me i'v never played brand before. Look son i been here since season one and have played many brands. I have even played him this season in rank. I just feel a full rotation of spells should not be able to wipe a team where as other mages need to run 2 or 3 roation of spells. Brand alone should not be the reason your team looses every team fight.
CrazyBear19871 votesBasically you could have said " (place any champion here) is overloaded with damage" and you would had the same replies.
As a mage, Brand is bursty, to compensate he is squishy up close and has long cooldowns after casting. Damage is all he has.
Fuh Queue1 votesSee, I'm a brand main, but I'll try my best to be unbiased in how I respond to this thread.
I can see where you're coming from, his passive does very high amounts of % health damage. However, his damage is very situational, and can easily be avoided. In order for Brand to even proc his passive on one target, he needs to land a full rotation of spells, that becomes extremely difficult as your opponents get better. His pillar is easy to avoid, his stun is easy to juke, his E almost requires you to be in auto attack range and his ult is situational. Brand is like Yasuo, he forces you to break your "safety zone" that we all learned as a new player. We were taught to stay near friendly minions, but against Yasuo that makes him stronger. We are also taught to "group up" as a new player, which is where Brand shines. But if you spread out and know the range of his abilities, his ult won't spread, nor will his passive. Then he's struck relying on his cooldown rotation which is about 4-5 seconds (with cdr). Now the balance comes from the fact that his kit has literally no safety to it. Most every single other mage has more reliable CC or better range to exploit, where Brand needs to be almost front line to deal damage. And because the mage update made his passive more suitable for combos, his poke is no where near as good as it was before.
As for your claim about him being banned at world's, I can see why. As a support he brings a lot of pressure, and his kit is suitable for a 2v2 lane. It's basically a counter to the way the bot lanes are being played. Also its been a targeted ban on certain Brand players that are extremely good on him.
I just feel like nerfing his damage isn't the right way to balance him, but instead either decreasing the explosion radius of his passive. Potentially they could even lower the total explosion % hp damage and allocate it back into the burn damage.
All I know from playing Brand alot since season 3 is that he's strong in teamfights against people that underestimate his damage. But when he gets focused, he has absolutely no way to defend himself.
Sinister Anubis1 votesPillar into ulti into hourglass is a prefest way to defend him self not to mention he builds a decent amount of hp with roa rylais and liandras torment.
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesWell I'm just against his high innate bases, brand support can be a pain when your adc refuses to DOOOOOOODGE!
But srsly they could change a bit less early base (rank 1-4) his late game is fine and dandy but his bases early feel too heavy.
PhtThc1 votesfuck riot.... deals tons of dmg... and takes almost none.. i played ez mid... i did all abilities on him... +ignite... and he even miss stun... and still kill me with 3 abilities i barely did half his life with ignite.. he did 100% without igniting me.... and missing his stun
Calabok1 votesdont group and stop whining.
Sinister Anubis1 votesSo what you are saying is don't play as a team. I can never contest baron dragon or siege towers with my team. That seems fair.
