Remove mana from the game

Caítlyn··2 votes·612 views

Why do champions gated by mana costs and mana items have to fight vs champs that can spam infinitely and immediately buy high damage items that also give defense?item 3155

18 Comments

CrazFight 9 votes

Caitlyn back at it again with the troll thread.

CppL3 votes

Cause some champs would be op ,without mp.

Caítlyn2 votes

Not having mana makes champs OP.

WHO KNEW

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Not having mana when you were principally balanced around it does.

Just like having no resource is balanced when they are made with that intent.

Ralanr1 votes

Wings, buddy. Refer to my comment about trolls and arguments please.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Not having mana makes champs OP.

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Manaless champs that are currently not very strong (bottom 15 winrate of their role in Diamond+ according to Champion.gg):

TOP

  • Renekton
  • Shen
  • Vladimir
  • Aatrox
  • Gnar

JUNGLE

  • Lee Sin
  • Tryndamere
  • Rengar

MID

  • Yasuo
  • Zed
  • Vladimir

Now manaless champions are are VERY strong (top 15 winrate):

TOP

  • Kennen

JUNGLE

  • Mordekaiser

MID

  • Kennen

Not let's look at play-rate.

TOP

  • Yasuo
  • Riven
  • Gnar
  • Renekton

JUNGLE

  • Lee Sin
  • Rengar
  • Zac
  • Rek'Sai

MID

  • Yasuo
  • Zed
  • Katarina

#CONCLUSION

Nothing about having mana seems to actually increase EFFECTIVENESS against skilled opponents. These champions probably perform better in lower MMRs (where mana-using opponents aren't as skilled at managing mana), and do tend to be more popular than their actual in-game performance would attest to.

Ralanr3 votes

Don't argue with an idiot/troll. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

CppL3 votes

yea ,imagine champs like cass ,spaming E every half a second.Or a swain ,with perma ultimate.

Caítlyn1 votes

Imagine champs like Yasuo dashing infinitely.

Fieryfury32 votes

Imagine someone pushing minions toward you, letting you freeze in front of tower. If yasuo is using e all the time and you dont just freeze the wave in front of your tower. Get gud honestly. You can freeze it in front of your tower and then he can't dash because oh there's a tower there. Plus if you're playing a ranged champ then you,can hit him when he comes to farm.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Yet again, another troll thread with his infamous "Why downvotes" comment.

Ralanr1 votes

Has yet to say it yet. May have jumped the gun too soon my friend.

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Rain Smurff2 votes

energy has its weaknesses. Taking out mana means taking out the skill in the game cause you need mana management to actually win a lane.

Caítlyn1 votes

You just said Yasuo takes no skill LOL

True Lizard2 votes

people call the op a troll but he's literally saying what everyone has said for a long time... minus the "remove mana" thing.

ActivatingEMP1 votes

Because the mana costs are literally the only things holding mages back from being the most overpowered champion type ever to exist

Caítlyn1 votes

Why downvotes?

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