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If poppy was nerfed for being both a tank and a fighter

MunchCrunchLunch··5 votes·877 views

shouldn't they nerf the aspect of either. instead of nerfing her ranges on her abilities meaning she will be hurt building ad or building tank or just overall as a champion. she is the WORST jungler in the game right now with 44% winrate. bottom tier top laner. are you trying to tell me shes not overnerfed?. I mean her winrate went down so much in 2 roles. if shes a tank that does too much damage. nerf her damage. not the other shit. her ranges.

the only matchups she has a positive winrate against are the champs that have some dashes. well it was the only ability that didn't get nerfed.

meanwhile fizz and ekko (ap mid laners) are top tier top laners building tank and doing more damage than poppy used to do. what is this.

a tank that is made to peel and engage is too good at her job so gets nerfed. but ap mid laners being better tanks than the whole champion type roster is okay.

a support going top lane and winning is fine. gets 1 ability damage nerfed

a top laner going support is fine. gets a minor nerf

meanwhile poppy playing her role and having a fair winrate of 51% is not fine. and she has to be gutted. call it whatever you want but her winrate went down by 5%. and losing damage. auto reset. range on her passive and her 3 is gutting.

10 Comments

Grimmrock1 votes

thing is, she still does fine if she goes tank and peel. the problem is people are still playing her like she's the high damage monster she was before the nerfs.

build the lady with hp, resists, and cdr and you will see marked improvements. the big issue for poppy wasn't that she could be fighter or tank, its that she was both at the same time, having some of the highest damage to champions while also maintaining incredible tankiness. her ranges made her really safe to engage or poke with, not to mention with grasp she could apply it from a range, basically dictating the entire lane. she was very much the lane bully that darius is but with none of his draw backs.

a tank made to PEEL was also behaving as a tank to engage, and a tank to blow up carries and a tank to eat the frontline and and and. . . . basically she was ekko before her nerfs, and if you dont think that ekko's getting some olaf level nerfs upcomming then you are mistaken. she will rise again, just as my sion had his knees broken in 5.24 or so, and has risen again, poppys knees will heal with time.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

just no. don't bring subjectiveness into a conversation about facts. she is the worst jungler in the GAME right now. bottom tier top laner. 4 nerfs is too much. don't make up shit.

IcyPepper1 votes

I thought she was an assassin, not a fighter, even when building tank.

Grimmrock1 votes

either way. and she was never intended to be a jungler, was intended by riot to be a tank. worst jungler in the game is shen. its so low he isnt even on the board anymore.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

If I remember correctly. Poppy was meant to be a jungler as well as a top laner. I remember the champion spotlight thread. don't confuse what you think of what is factual.

there you go http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/champion-update-poppy-keeper-hammer

Grimmrock1 votes

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If I remember correctly. Poppy was meant to be a jungler as well as a top laner. I remember the champion spotlight thread. don't confuse what you think of what is factual.

there you go http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/champion-update-poppy-keeper-hammer

you have me there, she was infact intended to fill both roles. congrats, you got me with information several months old, and I should have known better.

That being said, still dont think her being bad in the jungle is indicitive of her balance. because right now the jungle is hugely scewed to champions with powerful clears and early damages. shyvana, udyr, master yi, lee sin, elise, xin zhao. these are the things that rule the jungle, anyone that cant keep up with their clear or beat them in a fight is going to find they have markedly less effect against them as a jungler.

if we want to go with statistical stats : champion.gg for poppy in role placements by ranking

while her jungle winrate is low, her ranking as a jungle is only the third lowest, which was held by jarvan not two patches ago.

her toplane ranking? again with a mildly low winrate, within 2 statistical deviations of the median, she is damned near dead center of the toplane rankings at 29/57.

Slamurai Jack1 votes

Poppy's winrate still is quite high once you get some games on her. Most of the playerbase is still super inexperienced with Poppy. Her winrate will go up with time.

And Jungle and support Poppy should never have been a thing in the first place and the only reason she ever worked in those positions was because of how OP she was.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

dont start with that shit. you can say that about any champion.

ßurst1 votes

"dont start with that shit." is a valid point that can be argued with a thesis statement. rate 10/10

Slamurai Jack1 votes

You actually can't. Some champions have their overall winrate deflated by an experienced playerbase. Most don't. Poppy is among the former, as is Kindred. Riven and Lee on the other hand have massively experienced playerbases and still have shitty winrates because neither champ is really that good.

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