I've noticed this playing wukong mid and rushing duskblade. I can essentially assassinate a target in half the time it takes for a standard assassin to do the same. With duskblade (which needs to be toned the fuck down) I can blow up a target by the time it takes a zed ult even apply to an enemy.
So explain to me why the hell he's not in blood moon >:(
Śhunpo23 votesI don't understand why Camille and Pantheon are considered to be assassins lmao.
Eedat8 votesPanth I can see. Camille was brand new when blood moon was launched so they snuck her in to promote buying/playing the new champ
Steelflame2 votesI mean Camille has a fairly assassiny playstyle for a bruiser/diver.
The issue is she is allowed to build Titanic Hydra and Trinity Force and have BULK too in the assassin game mode. I'll even see them building both Tabis and Seeker's Armguard to have +100 armor or so because lol fuck ad assassins, while getting a Hexdrinker to counter any AP assassins hard.
You know who REALLY doesn't fit in the mode? Kennen. His entire existance is to be a teamfight diver of an AP carry. Why the hell is he in Bloodmoon? He makes as much sense as Shen would in Bloodmoon, only he actually is in it...
Mhihnj3 votesAP pantheon one shots
Śhunpo10 votesAP pantheon one shots
If only people actually went AP Pantheon. Instead they go full lethality and they're essentially a pseudo tank because Pantheon's passive in an assassin gamemode is unfair.
RocketRelm1 votesI'm genuinely surprised AP Pantheon does that. much damage, even if that is mostly Electrocute + Lich Bane in hyper end game Blood Moon. Good for the AP Panths.
Meanwhile I'm just sitting here trying not to cringe myself into a coma at the Trashadin performance, and how he just functionally "Inted" the Pantheon a kill.
Mhihnj1 votesthat is actually my W + hextech gunblade+electrocute+lichbane auto+spear. Pantheon can generally start one shotting by the time he's got 2.5 items but he needs to land his ultimate. He functions the opposite of an AD pantheon in that he is Basically a stunbot until mid game.
RocketRelm1 votesRight, Gunblade, I felt like I was missing something. In any case, Stun-Bot is still very useful in blood moon given the lack of CC in the mode.
Though how. would you deal with a Kassadin that responded properly? IE: even if you caught the Kass with a max range flash W, R'd away from you (which automatically completes even when the stun connects midway). The stun isn't long enough to walk up and auto after that, is it?
Jofeyy5 votesAssassins aren't supposed to have reliable hard cc.... Pantheon has a point and click stun.
Like... Riot's consistency is so tragic sometimes.
rework trundle3 votesKennen too. Who thought adding a champion with AoE stun in an assassin mode with Zhonya synergy as an added fuck you was a good idea?
koshkyra4 votesI don't understand why Camille and Pantheon are considered to be assassins lmao.
also yasuo kennen elise
Steelflame4 votesElise actually has a fairly solid assassin playstyle, you just generally don't see it because she functions so well as a bruiser in SR games.
Kennen flat out shouldn't be in the mode. Period. He fits the mode not at all, especially when he exist at the exclusion of several REAL assassin/divers who fit the mode.
Steel Blossom20 votes...the real problem here is the fact that Wukong has a more reliable dive and kill combo than fucking
Telosen1 votesPretty much.
In a team fight a few things are a factor.
Enemy health bars often get in the way of the targets you need to kill. Someone like wukong can issue his point-click gap close command from stealth. Or he can flash E+Q+Ult and stealth out. Champions like Talon or Zed are pretty telegraphed. The enemy usually needs to be out of position. Khazix is difficult because he needs the kill to get away since his stealth alone is usually not enough to escape (unless the fight happens near a bush and he evolved his stealth.)
Also consider enemy players who stack up to protect vulnerable targets, or who simply spam CC on the assassin. The time it takes Wukong to delete someone is WAY fucking less than Talon or Zed, and Wukongs combo is much safter than Khazix's.
And then add in that Wukong can build health and tankiness better than assassins, and his passive helps with this too. Something like an Omen makes sense on Wukong because it makes his ultimate even more dangerous while making him live longer. But an Omen on Talon? Rarely seen. Same for Zed.
I used to 1 trick wukong a few years ago and I'll honestly say as a Kha and Talon player that Wukong feels much stronger and consistent. Isn't he a bruiser?
Steel Blossom5 votesPretty much.
In a team fight a few things are a factor.
Enemy health bars often get in the way of the targets you need to kill. Someone like wukong can issue his point-click gap close command from stealth. Or he can flash E+Q+Ult and stealth out. Champions like Talon or Zed are pretty telegraphed. The enemy usually needs to be out of position. Khazix is difficult because he needs the kill to get away since his stealth alone is usually not enough to escape (unless the fight happens near a bush and he evolved his stealth.)
Also consider enemy players who stack up to protect vulnerable targets, or who simply spam CC on the assassin. The time it takes Wukong to delete someone is WAY fucking less than Talon or Zed, and Wukongs combo is much safter than Khazix's.
And then add in that Wukong can build health and tankiness better than assassins, and his passive helps with this too. Something like an Omen makes sense on Wukong because it makes his ultimate even more dangerous while making him live longer. But an Omen on Talon? Rarely seen. Same for Zed.
I used to 1 trick wukong a few years ago and I'll honestly say as a Kha and Talon player that Wukong feels much stronger and consistent. Isn't he a bruiser?
He's supposed to be a bruiser, until Riot had the bright idea of putting what I'd like to call "assassin power" into items instead of champion abilities. After that and the abominable reworks, pretty much anyone with a decent AD scaling is a better assassin than the actual assassins.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku2 votesIts not a problem. what's u missing here is wukong class. HE'S A DIVER. Of course he's BETTER at DIVE.
But no, he's not better at ASSASSINATE. Wukong is binary, he's very predictable.
Even stat agree with this, kha is pick or ban at high elo meanwhile wukong is... a joke.
Steel Blossom1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ryuumoku no koke,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JFEahQFW,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2018-02-11T12:24:17.090+0000)
Its not a problem. what's u missing here is wukong class. HE'S A DIVER. Of course he's BETTER at DIVE.
But no, he's not better at ASSASSINATE. Wukong is binary, he's very predictable.
Even stat agree with this, kha is pick or ban at high elo meanwhile wukong is... a joke.
lol part of an assassin IS the dive. Assassins should NEVER be worse at diving than anyone else, period. The only difference between Wu and Talon/Zed should be the fact that Wu goes in to start the fight with a CC while Talon/Zed applies the damage. Neither of these classes should be easily stoppable in direct engages.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votesu are so wrong at all level... i don't know where to start.
lolipopevelynn17 votesI've noticed this playing wukong mid and rushing duskblade. I can essentially assassinate a target in half the time it takes for a standard assassin to do the same. With duskblade (which needs to be toned the fuck down) I can blow up a target by the time it takes a zed ult even apply to an enemy.
So explain to me why the hell he's not in blood moon >:(
wukong mid has been a cheese strat since season 3. not really anything new.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku13 votesAt first, was thinking u were here to complain about Wu XD Yeah they're no reason to not add Wukong in this mode (his ult aoe isn't a reason look at kennen and katarina).
naveenrenold10 votesa lot of champion are not in blood moon.they need to add more
2Charmnot2Charm8 votesThey should remove ahri and replace her with wukong.
Wimbledofy2 votesor yas or camille
Steelflame4 votesActually, Kennen is the biggest "I really shouldn't be here case". Yasuo can be sorta assassiny as a Skirmisher, Camille rides the line and would be fine in the mode if she didn't have access to stupid as hell bruiser itemziation that lets her just completely bypass what should be the main focus of the mode, raw damage with no real survability.
Ahri is just a case of the fact she's been nerfed away from her assassin playstyle for a while now, but she still has some assassin elements to her.
Kennen flat out is "I'm a teamfight APC who goes in close range with semi-durable itemization, or can kite on the edge of a fight instead."
Jinx Hunter8 voteswhat we ought to do is fucking remove 
from it. So damn broken when played right in that mode. Also 
needs to be removed from the item list.
koshkyra4 votes[{quoted}](name=Jinx Hunter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JFEahQFW,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-02-10T18:33:45.195+0000)
what we ought to do is fucking remove
and 
wtf is this doing in the burst gamemode
Takua Nuva7 votesi miss when wukong was weak af early but scale to 1 of the best late game bruiser lulu and wu late was the shit back them :(
Sammystorm5 votesIt is almost like burst damage is better at assassinating then delayed damage.
Yordle Xayah4 votesAnyone with a bullshit stealth mechanic can be a good assassin
big boi edri3 votesI want to upvote this because Wukong should be in Blood Moon, but at the same time I want to downvote this because Wukong isn't a better assassin than most and Duskblade doesn't need a nerf.... conflicted.
Sire Hippington3 votesI really don't see why one wouldn't consider wukong as assasin, he has a gapcloser, burst, a disengage...what else would you want from an assasin other than a way to the squishy, the needed burst to take them down and a way out?
jama6551 votesdoesnt have a skinnnn
SangreDeNoche2 votesdoesnt have a skinnnn
Niether do a lot of them, or did I miss blood moon camille?
Cika Jova Zmaj1 votes
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= meme
IdveYsUfSK1 votesi posted it months ago and got downvoted by gd.
Bruh im ok1 votesi own 30 champs, only 1 of them in there.......despiting blood moon champs
Entheos Geon1 votesHe's only near decent as an assassin because Duskblade is overtuned.
Viscâ1 votesAlso Jarvan IV :)
Evil Yasuo1 votesAssassins in 2k18 lol
Karn Bishop1 votesMainly they do it to avoid just how horrible their "better and improved" eve really is when shes put on a level item/gold field vs her enemies. theres a reason nobody picks eve expecting to win blood moon.
