If he wants to make use of them, he has to set them up well in advance and then bait people in. He shouldn't have two of his spells (Deceive stealth and Jack in the Box) removed from the game just because of a simple trinket purchase.
When Shaco can't set up nests or even two boxes nearby, let alone try to lane with them because of the existence of one trinket, it's a bit of a problem.
Intimidator2 votesSo you're basically saying that shaco's boxes shouldn't have any counterplay? That players should just suck it up and let themselves be AOE cc'd and damaged? It's not like the entire team gets get trinket anyway... usually support and jungle upgrade it
ChickenWrap1 votesSo you're basically saying that shaco's boxes shouldn't have any counterplay? That players should just suck it up and let themselves be AOE cc'd and damaged? It's not like the entire team gets get trinket anyway... usually support and jungle upgrade it
I'm saying that Oracles Lens shouldn't disable them. Reveal them, go right ahead. Disable? That's bullshit and you know it. It's not like you CAN'T hit Shaco boxes with spells or auto-attacks and one-shot them past level 6 anyway.
Counterplay shouldn't come in the form of "I got this trinket for free, now you only have 2 and a half abilities instead of four."
Shac Norris1 votesGive the pink trinket back, and remove this shit trinket that counters only 2 entire champions (Teemo and Shaco(and Jhin, but his traps arn't really the best))
I never understood why Riot allowed this trinket to make it to the actual game in the first place.
Shaco's boxes have 150 HP at every level, with non-increasing armor/mr.
You said that ''only support and jungler upgrade it''. That's 20 seconds of trap disable, do you know how long a teamfight usually lasts? That's right, not 20 seconds. Not to mention that Shaco's boxes arn't immuned to AoE attacks, which can easily take out 3-4 with only 1 cast, making the past 40 seconds you took to set them up completly lost and useless, putting you behind in CS and having your team rage at you.
Debate me. Try.
Hayaishi22 votesHe needs his counterplay.
ChickenWrap1 votesHe needs his counterplay.
Lens already reveals W and reveals Shaco in stealth. That's not enough counterplay for you? It has to make his traps completely useless instead?
Shac Norris1 votesLOL, welcome to my hell.
Shaco's problems hell.
It's mainly composed of Riot not answering any Shaco bug/problem related threads, you dealing with complete ignorants who blindly hate Shaco and will downvote every post with Shaco in it's title.
Good Luck, I've been there as well.
ChickenWrap1 votes[{quoted}](name=Shac Norris,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JEaEiaW6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-03-08T17:51:14.696+0000)
LOL, welcome to my hell.
Shaco's problems hell.
It's mainly composed of Riot not answering any Shaco bug/problem related threads, you dealing with complete ignorants who blindly hate Shaco and will downvote every post with Shaco in it's title.
Good Luck, I've been there as well.
My favourite part is when a dude with chicken buff walks near a ward and gains true sight of your stealth.
As if Lens and BalanceQueen's Claim wasn't stupid enough for Shaco.
But instead he's the buggiest champ with some of the most counterplay in the game but people just want to see him removed.
Shaco's not even good right now, and the only people that know that and that know how to fix it are the people that main Shaco. Everyone else is just a joke.
Shac Norris1 votesYup. The truth.
Meep Man1 votes
Has his passive and ultimate negated
ChickenWrap1 votes[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JEaEiaW6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-03-09T22:24:08.779+0000)
Has his passive and ultimate negated
Not true. If you walk over a Teemo shroom while it's revealed, it still explodes (right?).
Shaco boxes just don't do shit all.