Ults I consider Toxic

Mira Arya Enthe··7 votes·1,023 views

Chogath Darius Garen Syndra Vi Veigar

I'm sure there is some sort of correlation... hmmmmm...

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Tworie3 votes

point and click ults are kinda bs.... especially Syndra's ult

Big Lincoln3 votes

Execute ults are fine though

are you complaining that they're targeted?

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

These aren't all executes try to figure out what they all have in common.

Big Lincoln1 votes

see edit

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

Dingdingding

Also forgot to out Lee's ult.

Big Lincoln2 votes

I'm fine with Darius (surprisingly) since he at least has a condition for it

Lee and Vi are dumb though, especially Lee having a lower cooldown than other ults that aren't nearly as powerful ahem volibear

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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I'm fine with Darius (surprisingly) since he at least has a condition for it

Lee and Vi are dumb though, especially Lee having a lower cooldown than other ults that aren't nearly as powerful ahem volibear

the reason lees ult is dumb is its flash interaction and the mobility in his kit though.

its almost impossible to avoid because of it. vi and syndras are understandable. syndras ult damage with 1 item is absurd for the fact that its ranged direct targeted.

but the other abilities are fine. including chos ult. since youre never getting into range of him if he doesnt hit a q first.

and wtf is wrong with garens or darius ults. theyre heavily conditional.

Ryze w is worse than either of those abilities.

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

Yes because everyone is a ranged champion?

Critmaster Garen3 votes

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Yes because everyone is a ranged champion?

no, but most melee champions have abilities to get in and out of threat range of those champions.

garen is weak enough during the lane phase that he gets bullied around for the most part by other melees. by the time he scales up to the point where you shoudnt 1v1 him anymore, lane phase is already doneso.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Darius is better than the others but still far from perfect. I wouldn't expect you not to like Darius tho. Considering you have lvl 7 on him.

Big Lincoln1 votes

In surprised you didn't include Trundle

He just presses R and takes any tank or bruiser out of the game

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

I am Bias. I destroy trundle.

Big Lincoln2 votes

I'm already practicing him again with the PBE changes

I can't wait for tanks to double their HP with stoneplate in fights, tank patch is going to be a great time to play him :^)

Ahristocats2 votes

toxic is the buzz word

the word that everyone uses without even knowing what it means

i'm interested into arguing about subjectivity, are you complaining about not being able to outplay darius ult when it needs years of set-up? u_U

-gH

Critmaster Garen2 votes

but hey, if you think garens ult shouldnt be a direct target ability, then lets look at the resulting compnsation buffs that would most likely happen.

like massively increased cast range, making it deal aoe damage, or just straight up true damage 100% of the time.

expect something similar for darius ult to happen.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Sounds fine. Actually.

Mizuki Zahra2 votes

Malzahar Brand Nautilus Tristana Caitlyn Zed including ur list lol that's my list of uggg I don't wanna today lol

PureSilvrr1 votes

Trist ult?

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

point click knock back kinda like lee sin but ya lol

PureSilvrr1 votes

God forbid an adc has peel....

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Caitlyns does little damage lol. Its only good to get an execute in, while other teammates can block it.

Mizuki Zahra3 votes

unless they are a one trick Caitlyn jungle and then bam midlane gone to a camping sniper

AFilthyCaitMain3 votes

I feel like this is a troll? lol. Anyways the lethality meta is the only time when her ult did more than about 1/4 (or 1/5) of someone's health.

Scaling: PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 250 / 475 / 700 (+ 200% bonus AD)

Usually a Caitlyn can only get upto about 200ish flat AD late game, so thats only 900 damage, not even calculating armor and stuff.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

not a troll lol my friend actually plays her jungle cause he likes jungle and likes that champ a lot, we do lose a lot but hey its fun lol

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

I should try it lol

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

Keep middle between the two towers warded at all times lol usually base from there it's funny to get an ult off there

AFilthyCaitMain2 votes

Ults you cant counter/ have to basically stay away from champions while its up are toxic. Execute ults, ok. But if they can still deal like 1k health its toxic. Cough Garen

Malicious Metal2 votes

You do realize some ultimates need to be Point and Click or else Riot would have to buff them since they'd be unreliable.

Snydra's unleashed power deals a shit ton of damage and can nuke ONE squishy but Viktor's Chaos storm can nuke an entire team if he expertly manages the ticks.

Eedat1 votes

Annie Karthus ?

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Annie is so linear and most so bad they miss tibbers that I forget she exists.

What is that second champion? item 3102 I never item 3157 see item 3814 him Soraka my summoner 21 games.

Eedat1 votes

Whens the last time you saw anyone build item 3102? Second, BV is NEVER up when you use your ult because you're most likely using it to kill a low enemy accross the map or in the middle of a team fight. Since they were just in a fight, its not up. Sorry.

Zhonyas, yeah. EoN maybe. There's only like 2 AD mids that use it anymore though.

Karthus' ult is one of the strongest ults in the game without question. A global that auto-targets every single person of the map for a Nuke. It can't be dodged or flashed away from.

Thats why the rest of his kit is meh. It's only kept in check because so much power is invested in his ult. If you think about it, its really toxic. You think Syndra's ult is toxic? How about being point-and-click nuked from 10,000 range away?

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

It's a meme about Karthus ult.

Viktor Von Lazer1 votes

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Annie is so linear and most so bad they miss tibbers that I forget she exists.

What is that second champion? item 3102 I never item 3157 see item 3814 him Soraka my summoner 21 games.

Pretty sure he's 5 overall on champion.gg The MR on banshee's is more useful than the spell shield since it's more than likely popped off when the ult hits. Your Edge of night is usually on cooldown because it's used to initiate and Karthus doesn't initiate with his ult unless he suxs. Barrier is viable on only the midlaner and Karthus ult out scales it by far anyway so he'll kill you through it if you're low enough, and While it's possible for a soraka ult to save someone from a karthus Ult, they'll probably still die because Soraka typical doesn't build much AP, so her ult doesn't scale while Karthus ult does. Zhonyas is probably the only one that might save you seeing as it's actually used at a clutch moment, but if you're surrounded by enemies when the status is up ... you're dead and it's still technically thanks to the ult even if it didn't actually kill you.

How a Karthus ult ACTUALLY works. 1) You snowball the other lanes using your global ult while pushing in mid . They don't have any MR or defenses against it early in top or bot unless you want to buy MR against an ult on 3 min cooldown when your opponent is AD. 2) In the middle of a fight after you've died and the enemy team has used up most of their defenses. edge pop during initiation, banshee popped, pretty sure your support is autofilled and is playing something that has no way of defending his team against a karthus Ult a.k.a blitz, zyra, brand, you're free to ult and do close to 1000 damage to each enemy late game, picking people off and making it an easy clean up.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J7HnTzEm,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-12T18:51:31.412+0000) I'm sure there is some sort of correlation

you suck at kiting?

Mira Arya Enthe3 votes

Shyvana Kiting... Leona Kiting...

Joes1 votes

Gnar :)

Tensec1 votes

Darius and garen are fine. The rest can be oppressive

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

I thought there was a correlation until you got to Vi. True damage pseudo-execute, true damage pseudo-execute, sometimes true damage execute, pseudo-execute, execute, and then a lockdown ability that deals shit damage. What? Like, it's point and click, I get that, but you didn't include like half the point and click ults.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

Eyup missed a few. Pretty sad I forgot Malz. I use to main him. Point and click ults are just toxic. It leaves minimal counterplay for the strongest asset in their kit.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Here's my list.

Cassiopeia Singed Twitch :^)

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