How many time did you guys select a champion that you are going to play but your team ban him.

taleofsonata·Feb 8, 2016·69 votes·4,337 views

I picked , and this dude just ban him and says I don't want a shaco on my Team. Like Seriously? Same thing happened to my other game, a guy pick and he gets ban by the same reason. I banned your Nasus go play another role I got top. Wow Seriously?

Ooo but you know what happened? Someone dodged the Queue because I picked Malzahar jungle. Next Queue I ended up picking my Beloved Shaco and the guy that banned my shaco was on the other Team playing Malzahar Mid. I Camped him and made him Tilt sooo hard until he could not understand what was going on in that game. I was soo happy. THE BEST FEELING EVER.

134 Comments

Zero Skill TankFeb 8, 201630 votes

It should be punishable. Behavior like this makes people less willing to communicate with their team - because what's the point, if your teammates are going to punish you for that?

AlsekFeb 9, 201616 votes

Unfortunately banning something someone on your team may want is still the correct thing to do at times...

A last pick that wants graves? Probably isn't getting him. I don't feel like handing that to the enemy team.

ElkhantarFeb 9, 20165 votes

But you could trade if he had your pick... just talk it over first

stealthfox94Feb 9, 20163 votes

Champion trading is hard to set up in blind pick

Remlap1223Feb 9, 20162 votes

REEAALLLYYYY.....

Hey does anybody own Graves? I've got the champion you own, if you could pick him and we'll trade, that'd be great...

stealthfox94Feb 9, 20162 votes

Sigh, yes but theres times when I'm not 100% sure who I want to play until the last minute. Tell me you haven't been the same way at some point.

Remlap1223Feb 9, 20161 votes

Yeah, back before I played ranked. Now, I always come up with a game plan. Plus with new draft, you have an even more condensed champion pool.

stealthfox94Feb 10, 20161 votes

Yeah but lets say I plan on picking Yasuo mid and I'm last pick. Our 4 man team has no knockups and the enemy mid-laner is Malzahar. Might be a good idea to not pick him.

FaieFeb 8, 201623 votes

Honestly, basically never. Contrary to popular belief, almost the entire League community is full of nice people that aren't trolls.

charcharmunroFeb 9, 20166 votes

The sad keyword there being "almost". Most people do get salty, though.

ErockandrollFeb 8, 201616 votes

And people wonder why Riot is never going to give us 10 bans.

SoMNiaFeb 8, 20166 votes

Report people for doing that. You don't ban out your own teammate. Not okay.

Stemw3Feb 9, 20161 votes

As much as I agree with you, but as I know it is not reportable by now...

LordKentravyonFeb 9, 20165 votes

Unsportsmanlike conduct + describe the events I'd say being mean to your teamate by banning their champ in champ select is very unsportsmanlike

LlaniteFeb 9, 20162 votes

99.99% confidence that they don't read your lengthy description.

They have a bot that scan games and collect certain pre-defined words and pass it on to a human reviewer if a certain threshold is reached.

LordKentravyonFeb 9, 20161 votes

I really wouldn't call it a lengthy description When I see someone banning an intended pick that normally wouldn't be banned i'll throw something down like.

{x] unsportsmanlike conduct

intentionally banned a teammates intended champ.

Just a short 1 line "what happened" that I'm sure the system will pick up on if it received enough of them. Similarly if I was doing another form of report like harassment. I would put "harassed teammates / enemies throughout the game"

Now are there instances when you can make a case for banning someones champ? yes but if you do, the conditions are reasonable I won't report (especially not if you say something to the guy) For example pick 4 wants to grab someone widely considered OP and frequently banned and have not mentioned trading with any teammates. That's fine you could argue that the risk of the enemy team picking them was to great. I would personally throw in a "sorry bro, I just can't risk the first pick X"

One can assume that the people doing the former do so relatively frequently so would accumulate a good number of those reports and be detected by the system. Whereas the later would less frequent with less reports (or no) reports per incident and likewise be fine.

I hope this trend of banning peoples champs stops. (hopefully some warnings / punishments contribute to this) stopped listing my intended picks and saw their ban rate decrease 80-90% (with my teammates) . This saddens me though because I enjoy being strategical with picks, trying to form a balanced team comp / trading with others for securing / avoiding counter picks etc.. That can't happen if people are too afraid to display their intention due to trolls.

ADepressedLeonaFeb 9, 20165 votes

I've had my team ban Soraka from me. I remember one game I was first pick, hovered over her, and even said "Don't ban Soraka." My own team still banned her from me

LF AnnieFeb 10, 20161 votes

if that was me, im sorry because i cant play adc with raka supports, it never works out.

bobsenbobFeb 8, 20164 votes

generally, Ill only do this if it's that new champ thats been out for one day and they have 0 games on

Stemw3Feb 9, 20162 votes

Just a question: How would someone get games with a champion if the champ gets banned away every time?

manbearswineFeb 9, 20164 votes

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Just a question: How would someone get games with a champion if the champ gets banned away every time?

In normals.

Lexy KittenFeb 9, 20162 votes

Normals only consist of Draft and Blind pick though.

Blind pick is even worse for getting what you want to play.

manbearswineFeb 9, 20162 votes

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Normals only consist of Draft and Blind pick though.

Blind pick is even worse for getting what you want to play.

Well it depends on how fast you can instalock,if that's a problem then go draft.

Lexy KittenFeb 9, 20162 votes

Well see that's why I do play Draft... I want no part in the instalock scumming.

I was saying Blind pick is your only option beyond draft where something could get banned but it's arguably worse.

manbearswineFeb 9, 20161 votes

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Well see that's why I do play Draft... I want no part in the instalock scumming.

It might be really stupid but there's nothing wrong about the instalocks in blind,draft has pick order...blind has lock order.

I was saying Blind pick is your only option beyond draft where something could get banned but it's arguably worse.

Well see even though it's a normals people might not want to deal with it on their team...or to protest the ip price of new champs.

I'd say the join in on the instalocking,games might be crap but chances are that so are you on that champ. Or you can wait a week before buying new champs out of solidarity,7800 ip is BS,even if you have 100k of it.

Slave15Feb 10, 20161 votes

Riot has consistently stated that Call Order is the primary way to determine priority in Blind Pick. Lock Order is more commonly known as "Trolling"

LordKentravyonFeb 9, 20161 votes

See that depends on the persons comp.

I can only blind if I am 100% okay with fill. Because even though I run the game itself no problem My experience with blind is.

Match found
Accept
Black screen for 2-3 seconds
Enter champ select with 1-3 champions locked in and the fastest calls not even being displayed.

SO if I want a specific role or champ that kinda leaves draft.

bobsenbobFeb 10, 20161 votes

normals? that has long been accepted as the place to practice new champs, not ranked. I honestly wouldn't mind if it's your first time playing a champ, but if it's a newly released champ as well, most likely you've never seen them on your team or on the enemy team either

BladegloryFeb 9, 20164 votes

Ranked game from a few days ago: I choose Leona support, top chooses Mordekaiser.

Ban phase: He bans Leona. I kinda main Leona, so I just go... "...Why? I'd understand if I selected Tahm or something but..."

Pick phase: I go Soraka instead. Not my type but she's fine. (In retrospect I should have gone Taric instead. I like him and he's tanky like Leona)

Final phase: Mordekaiser : Is this ranked? Soraka : oh lordy

SpongebobIsLifeFeb 9, 20163 votes

well I cant blame them tbh. Shaco is one of those champs where its like, you get the one who doesn't gank till like lvl 10, while the enemy team has a 5-0 shaco at 8 mins.

KyroRayneFeb 8, 20162 votes

Sounds like he was salty. That's why I normally don't show which champ I'm playing beforehand.

Also, I've banned the champ of someone who had intentionally banned mine just before. It was great. :D We also still won that game.

HighH1Feb 8, 20162 votes

But what if it's support teemo or another troll pick?

TurquoiseYoshiFeb 8, 20164 votes

Usually, you assume that the player can play the pick that they have chosen. Troll picks don't exist, just trolls.

Avios1Feb 9, 20163 votes

I'm a teemo main, Tankmo is my bread and butter botlane.

It actually works believe it or not, Global Taunt is Overpowered lol.

TotalJerkFeb 9, 20162 votes

I've seen many a Teemo bot and Teemo support, and they've literally never won lane.

iamthegoatofwarFeb 9, 20162 votes

Rarely. Also if they do I generally understand the reasoning. I tend to be low enough on the pick board that the 1st 2 without ban power voice concern that I want a champion that is deemed op and sometimes for the sake of the team i ban them.

arcinexFeb 9, 20162 votes

And this is where Team Builder comes in handy

LuggFeb 9, 20162 votes

Riot needs to make it that the champ you pick can't be banned by your team.

Maximum MordeFeb 9, 20164 votes

Have a downvote for one of the worst ideas of all time.

LuggFeb 9, 20162 votes

Please explain why this is a bad idea.

Maximum MordeFeb 9, 20163 votes

Because I don't care that fifth pick wants to play <insert pick/ban meta champ here>. My ban is getting used to make sure the enemy team can't first pick it.

LuggFeb 9, 20163 votes

So why can't your team just first pick it and trade?

Maximum MordeFeb 9, 20163 votes

This is exactly what should happen in an organized group. In Solo queue, it's quite possible that the people don't have the right champs to trade so it doesn't work like that.

LuggFeb 10, 20161 votes

Yeah, that does happen quite a bit. Can't argue with you there.

ParaBellamFeb 9, 20162 votes

While it's an incredibly dickish thing to do, there is a rotation of champs that I don't trust teammates to play. They nearly always do worse than the other team, like some sort of unspoken rule. Yasuo LeeSin Riven Shaco are the main ones that I feel are extremely polar.

The Nasus thing is really dumb. Isn't that guy forced to play his role due to the Teambuilder?

It's a weird issue. I like to ban champs like Zed that are either incredibly cancerous on the other team or useless on our team, but at the same time it's just a complete fustercluck.

AjabikiFTWFeb 9, 20162 votes

I was on the opposite side all of last week, banning Jhin in ranked if an ally had him hovered

420 StylishFeb 10, 20162 votes

Which is yet ANOTHER reason that teambuilder needs to be an option for normals. Sure, this new draft is fantastic for ranked(has some issues, but generally it's an improvement) but god damn do I hate it for normals. You no longer have the option of getting the exact role you want, you can't always play the exact champion you want (thanks to bans), you get counterpicked intentionally, you can't choose your team, and that's about it.

tl;dr keep new draft for ranked, teambuilder for normals.

Voluug13Feb 9, 20161 votes

Well, you picked Shaco, and sadly good Shaco players extremely scarce. If someone tries to pick Shaco I could ban them because everysingle Shaco I have played with is terrible and AFKfarms 20min, never ganks early and then wonders why he cant 1v5 with his Sated Devourer.

Every single time that has happened. Truth is Shaco is like a harder, less useful Lee Sin when it comes to FotM status.

taleofsonataFeb 9, 20165 votes

I Play Leblanc, Heimerdinger and Shaco as my top 3 most played champion. I know how to play them perfectly. I think Riot should show which champion that person has mastered soo it give a bright idea to the jackass who is banning them.

My Waifu VanillaFeb 10, 20161 votes

This actually isn't a bad idea. For when you hover your champ it could show next to the portrait your win rate or W/L that way people know you are that OG hipster Udyr player or whatever that already has multiple games on him before the "hype" instead of a first time scrub because "lol freelo amirite?"