"Sona has no counterplay"

FireDrizzle·Dec 23, 2017·2 votes·514 views

is too tanky to focus with a warmogs and tanks stats. Heals arent aimed. point and click turns her adc into a god and point and click peels you. Her hard cc is knockups so tenacity is useless. Point and click shield like Lulu. Other than dodge the tornado no counterplay.

I know tank supports are really good atm but point is Sona is less obnoxious to play against and has more counterplay as someone who can be focused. Atleast if she saves herself with ult it can be a waste due to its impact and long cooldown, Lulu and Janna have peel on basics and Soraka can make herself tanky.

Turning Sonas Q into a skillshot is just taking variety from the game. There isnt any more countplay to auto attacks. Sona can actually be bursted down, she is not as safe as other enchanters.

13 Comments

TehNACHODec 23, 20175 votes

Sorakas don't seem to be building Warmongs and Spirit Visage much these days Lulu's defensive utility is mildly unaffective to ranged poke and such threats. Janna is a host of different problems altogether.

Other than Janna, you're reeeeaaally overselling this.

RenownedWheat42Dec 23, 20172 votes

Was gonna say the same thing haha.

Jinzo TorranceDec 23, 20171 votes

Enchanters need to be removed from the game, pansy class.

SõnaDec 23, 20171 votes

Yeah, every support should be removed, let alone all assassin and adc fun gameplay. I hope you get one shot by enemy's Syndra and Rengar. Without any support's help.

UnboundHadesDec 23, 20172 votes

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Yeah, every support should be removed, let alone all assassin and adc fun gameplay. Bye.

enchanters as a whole are just terrible design and need to be worked on(would say a group rework thing but those are terrible)

SõnaDec 23, 20171 votes

How are those terrible? They are designed to help and protect teammates. If enemy team has support(enchanter), why aren't your team having one too? I hope you as any other lane will be one shot by Rengar/Khazix/Syndra/Kayn and don't cry for why there's no shield/healing support helping you. You deserve that with no respect to support players.

UnboundHadesDec 23, 20172 votes

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How are those terrible? They are designed to help and protect teammates. If enemy team has support(enchanter), why aren't your team having one too? I hope you as any other lane will be one shot by Rengar/Khazix/Syndra/Kayn and don't cry for why there's no shield/healing support helping you. You deserve that with no respect to support players.

please atleast try to make what you say make any sense at all, and their design is not healthy and needs fixed not me hating every support

SõnaDec 23, 20171 votes

In current patch, those healing support are destroyed by Leona/Blitz/alistar or any other high scaling ap champions.

In early game phrase before 10 minutes, healing/shielding-oriented champion are weak, low armors and high mana consumption. The bonus stats from previous rune system has gone. Which means now in early game they have no more bonus Armor nor magic resistance.

You as an ADC could easily outpoke them with Press the Attack and one engage-oriented champion like I mentioned. This is 5v5 teammate game. Tell your teammate to help focus-fire on enemy's (enchanter) support if they can reverse their game.

Otherwise what you said about game unhealthy are invalid.

FireDrizzleDec 23, 20171 votes

I'm talking about their design not their current strength. "I know tank supports are really good atm" "I know tank supports are really good atm"

"You as an ADC could easily outpoke them with Press the Attack and one engage-oriented champion like I mentioned."I never even play adc.

"Tell your teammate to help focus-fire on enemy's (enchanter) support if they can reverse their game. " As I said they have self peel and Soraka can build not to die if she has too.

SõnaDec 23, 20171 votes

Healing/shielding support has been here since S1. If their design arent healthy, Riot should have changed the support meta into full 5v5 dps.

If you never played ADC, that's your team's ADC problem that he can't lane bully enemy along with your team's support.
You said they have self-peel, so do your team. Your team have a support as well. Instead of directing the enemy, but probably ask your teammate to pick one of those "unhealthy" support to help you too.

Jinzo TorranceDec 23, 20171 votes

Why every support? Things like Blitz, Naut, Brand or Vel'Koz need at least a couple of brain cells to play since they have skillshots with high CD and they need to interact with enemy players so they give the enemy a chance to outplay them. Enchanters, on the other hand, can play like satellites all game and most of their spells are targeted CC or heal/shield so you have 0 oppurtunity to outplay them. How do you outplay a Lulu who just polymorphs you for 2.25 sec off cooldown or a Sona who scrubs the keyboard?

SõnaDec 23, 20171 votes

By saying removing every support sarcastically. He obviously doesn't need support on his team.