Mages and Sejuani are people too!

Happy Jack··4 votes·468 views

Just to be clear...

  • ALL AD champs get shiny new items

  • ADCs get shiny new updates ... AS A CLASS

  • Juggularnauts got shiny new updates... AS A CLASS

  • Jugnauts and tanks got some shiny new items

  • Supports got some shiny new items

  • Junglers got some shiny new items

Unless I missed something ... APs literally have nothing to be excited about?

Rito, tell me I'm wrong and missed something... Oh I did...

  • APs get to have less CDR options than ADs.

Awesome.

16 Comments

Maximum Morde4 votes

Mage items got an overhaul not too long ago. While it's true that us mage mains didn't get much from this patch(some of the masteries are nice), we can't be the focus of Riot's attention EVERY patch you know? Just chill for now. I'll start panicking if it comes up to the end of Season 6 and we haven't go attention. Until them I'm just gonna chill and let Riot do a little fine tuning on their new toys.

Happy Jack2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IvVE8jfc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-11-20T03:50:23.814+0000)

Mage items got an overhaul not too long ago. While it's true that us mage mains didn't get much from this patch(some of the masteries are nice), we can't be the focus of Riot's attention EVERY patch you know? Just chill for now. I'll start panicking if it comes up to the end of Season 6 and we haven't go attention. Until them I'm just gonna chill and let Riot do a little fine tuning on their new toys.

Overhaul? They took away DFG and added a single item?

(I could be wrong, I took a few months break at the end of last season)

Maximum Morde1 votes

You missed the changes completely somehow lol. Many items got their build paths updated to be nicer. Rylais slow effect was changed for the better, several items got a touch more AP, I can't remember them all off the top of my head, but they did happen!

Hayaishi23 votes

Yeah but when Mages had the best itemization for 4 seasons straight nobody bats an eye.

Happy Jack2 votes

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Yeah but when Mages had the best itemization for 4 seasons straight nobody bats an eye.

I would disagree.

Carries in general (AP & ADC) usually had the better itemization, not just Mages. This is because their items so easily bleed into other role's builds.

Supports got item love as well in the past 2 seasons.

Junglers have also received a lot item (and gold) love in the past 2 seasons.

But say you're right... Past sins don't make current ones right?

Hayaishi21 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IvVE8jfc,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-11-20T03:50:14.018+0000)

I would disagree.

Carries in general (AP & ADC) usually had the better itemization, not just Mages. This is because their items so easily bleed into other role's builds.

Supports got item love as well in the past 2 seasons.

Junglers have also received a lot item (and gold) love in the past 2 seasons.

But say you're right... Past sins don't make current ones right?

Nah but you people gotta chill.

They updated AP items a couple of months ago.

Happy Jack1 votes

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Nah but you people gotta chill.

They updated AP items a couple of months ago.

Ppl keep saying they updated AP items. All I'm aware of was removing DFG and adding 1 item. That's not an update/overhaul or anything of substance.

I took a few months off, did I miss something?

Hayaishi22 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IvVE8jfc,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-20T04:17:18.389+0000)

Ppl keep saying they updated AP items. All I'm aware of was removing DFG and adding 1 item. That's not an update/overhaul or anything of substance.

I took a few months off, did I miss something?

And several stat/price changes to items like Rilays and Nashors.

Happy Jack2 votes

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And several stat/price changes to items like Rilays and Nashors.

Every AD / Jungle / Jugnaut / Support / ADC has several shiny new items AND some get CLASS updates.

Kinda pales in comparison to tweaking the edges of existing AP items 10 months ago.

Hayaishi22 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IvVE8jfc,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-20T04:23:47.850+0000)

Every AD / Jungle / Jugnaut / Support / ADC has several shiny new items AND some get CLASS updates.

Kinda pales in comparison to tweaking the edges of existing AP items 10 months ago.

Because AP items were 2 times better than the items junglers/supports/adc used to have before said updates. So Ap gets a minor update because they didn't and still don't need new items.

Happy Jack2 votes

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Because AP items were 2 times better than the items junglers/supports/adc used to have before said updates. So Ap gets a minor update because they didn't and still don't need new items.

Ok, so that's called balancing.

What's occurring now, with every other class is not balancing.

Just want to make sure Rito don't ferget that Mages are people too.

Sir Yamazuki2 votes

Mages have had "updates" multiple times.

Death by Glamour1 votes

I believe they are incoming aswell later in the pre season

Happy Jack1 votes

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I believe they are incoming aswell later in the pre season

/xfingers

But nothing on PBE and nothing leaked about it by Riot.

Death by Glamour1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IvVE8jfc,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-11-20T03:58:29.932+0000)

/xfingers

But nothing on PBE and nothing leaked about it by Riot.

Well we have 2 months to go and poppy taric and shen updates aswell in that timeframe i believe

MilfHuntUnitXJ91 votes

I really don't like the way you worded this. As mages have brand new mana sustain (a brand new fuckton) if you willfully know how to and understand combining mana sustain and AP then you will do fine. Mages still do good, just wait for the whole AD hype train to cool down and people will realize that Tanks can still counter full AD and mages do great to supplement with tanks against AD and other tanks etc

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