Making vision items support exclusive was one of the worst things that happened to botlane

Smyrage·9/1/2019, 1:46:46 PM·3 votes·814 views

I like botlane, both ADC and Support. At least I used to. Nowadays I prefer not to play either role, because ADC's vision is extremely support reliant and the Support is basically a warding machine right now. This might not be a problem for premades, but if you happen to play solo on bot, then your vision is extremely limited. I used to buy sightstone as ADC, because the only way to control the lane is to have vision of your surroundings, but right now those 3 wards you can put down are just not enough. It's a plea to make vision items available for everyone or at least make it ADC exclusive, because quite many support players don't know how they should be warding and of course warding should be the job of the one, who actually controls the lane, not the one who is passively playing there.

Also item 3098 needs to be removed from this game altogether.

7 Comments

Sirsir9/1/2019, 2:19:25 PM3 votes

Nothing you said makes sense.

Old Sightstone was only ever bought on supports and wardhoppers. Pinks still exist, and ordinary wards were replaced by their free variant item 3340, that typically sees a lot more use.

And it's forced on EVERYONE. And if they aren't using it they CERTAINLY wouldn't be using the paid wards or a sightstone. That's a player problem not a game problem.

DuskDaUmbreon9/1/2019, 3:04:15 PM3 votes

Sightstone was never bought except by supports, a couple people abusing Ruby Sightstone's item CDR, and ward hoppers, though?

Like it's practically no change at all. It was a nerf to Jax and lane Lee Sin, killed a couple cheese strats, and...that was about it.

Pika Fox9/1/2019, 2:42:57 PM1 votes

Not really. My only complaint is spellthiefs needs a buff nerf.... When ahead, it gets gold too fast. When behind, you dont get vision til like 25 mins in.

Midg3t9/1/2019, 3:42:37 PM1 votes

My only problem with vision items is that when behind, you have a hard time maintaining vision control.

item 3303 requires you to be ahead or even, in the worst case scenario, and it also punishes you for roaming if you dont manage to catch enemy laner

item 3302 similar issue as spellthief except you cant rly use it situationally (when poked use relic proc to heal yourself and your adc) so you not only need to proc it asap but you also have to use it on most worth creeps in order to be time-efficient

item 3301 is basically living on a recruit difficulty. In terms of time-efficiency and risk it outshines other supp items, in exchange for the lack of stats.