The hate circlejerk is real.

Glîtchy··7 votes·367 views

Notice how lots of people are saying a champ needs a nerf lately but don't offer ANY ideas to balance them? I mean I've seen people say "Nasus/Veigar/Ahri/Nautilus/Galio/Gangplank op" both on forums and in-game, how about along with the bitching, you offer some ideas?

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Viktor Von Lazer1 votes

Pretty sure most people don't just say... "this is OP, Nerf it." They add some input afterwards. I've always said Ahri needs a nerf. follow by a possibly nerf. Increase the duration of charm so that there is actual risk in using it like Zed has actual risk in using his shadow. If zed uses his shadow, that's 22 second cooldown on an ability that could potential put him in a dangerous spot if used incorrectly. If Ahri misses her charm, 12 seconds isn't a long enough window to actually punish,, she'll just hang back for a tiny bit and, at most she'll give up a cs or two against a strong opponent at best she doesn't even care and will carry on the lane as normal.

Glîtchy2 votes

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Pretty sure most people don't just say... "this is OP, Nerf it." They add some input afterwards. I've always said Ahri needs a nerf. follow by a possibly nerf. Increase the duration of charm so that there is actual risk in using it like Zed has actual risk in using his shadow. If zed uses his shadow, that's 22 second cooldown on an ability that could potential put him in a dangerous spot if used incorrectly. If Ahri misses her charm, 12 seconds isn't a long enough window to actually punish,, she'll just hang back for a tiny bit and, at most she'll give up a cs or two against a strong opponent at best she doesn't even care and will carry on the lane as normal.

I actually saw someone say her charm should be REMOVED one time.

Melledoneus1 votes

Listen, we don't let those people even remotely represent how we think.

Viktor Von Lazer1 votes

I don't think her charm is a problem just the safety and freedom of using it. If her charm was conditioned on her using her ultimate or just simply had a longer cooldown that would bring her in line with the assassin play style. At the moment she feels like all reward no risk. Zed appears behind someone after ulting them, huge risk if you mess it up. Katarina has to jump in and ult, if they target doesn't die, wasted ult and horrible positioning opens you up for the counter engage. fizz has to ult then jump in and hope they die... basically every assassin needs to commit in some way. Ahri can just wait until she's landed a charm without the commitment of ulting and charm is on a relatively low cooldown for impact landing one has. The reward with little risk aspect of her has to go.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

Her charm has a 12 second cooldown early game (where you don't have cdr yet) and the only thing you get out of maxing charm is damage and cc duration.

With 40% cdr it goes down to a 7.2 second cooldown.

Unless the enemy is walking along a wall making it hard to juke the charm, someone on your team is slowing or stunning them for charm to land, or you burn flash/ult to get it to land you're not going to be landing charm outside of fights where the enemy is distracted.

Better off just holding charm since players will be scared of you till you throw it if it's not going to be a 100% hit.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Not just lately....

SirΤeemο1 votes

the fact that veigar gains so much ap through the first 20 minutes is not healthy.. Solution : 200-250 MAX ap stacks the same as nasus and his stacks and then his Q is 3 sec cdr , Solution : 200-300 MAX stacks . Nautilus ? most tanky champion on the game.. he can easily go 1v5 and not even die ... Gangplank can make his Q crt.. that's not heathly , Solution : remove the CRT from his Q/barrels + Lower the health from his oranges..

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